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Gens/GS r7_pre5 - Preview Release

Discussion in 'Engineering & Reverse Engineering' started by GerbilSoft, Jul 28, 2009.

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  1. Oct 11, 2009 #21
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    Well, if you resize the window yourself in Aero it goes into Basic mode. :O
     
  2. Oct 12, 2009 #22
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    I can't do much about that, since I don't have a Windows Vista or 7 machine and/or VM. Then again, Gens/GS is an "incomplete" version of Gens, so stuff like this should be expected.
     
  3. Oct 12, 2009 #23
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    Either way, it's an improvement over regular Gens which tended to force my computer into 16 bit color mode.
     
  4. Oct 12, 2009 #24
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  5. Oct 12, 2009 #25
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    Odd, it doesn't do that to me.

    Then again, when it starts, it uses the Double Render for me, but I've resized it a bit, and no Basic mode switch for me. Wonder why it does that to you?
     
  7. Oct 14, 2009 #27
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    You know, the latest VMWare betas support Aero in Vista/7...
     
  8. Oct 14, 2009 #28
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    You know, Windows Vista and 7 cost money. And I'm not pirating them, either.

    Would you like to donate a retail copy of Windows 7?
     
  9. Oct 14, 2009 #29
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    The RC works until June next year and is legal to evaluate until then. Just grab the RC iso from some torrent site and grab a key from here: http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windows-7/get/download.aspx

    Would you like to be less of an asshole when people suggest options?
     
  10. Oct 14, 2009 #30
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    The amusing part, of course, is that you've never actually downloaded Gens/GS. You just came to this topic because I said something negative about Windows 7. (EDIT: Did I even say anything negative about Windows 7? I'm looking up, and all I see is me stating I'm not buying a copy myself and I'm not pirating it.)

    Mind posting something constructive instead of "LOL YOU'RE AN ASSHOLE"?

    By the way, I'm not getting Win7 RC. I don't have enough space on my laptop's hard drive to install it in a VM, and it probably won't support Aero on my Win98SE test laptop (a ThinkPad G40). (Aero's what seems to be causing the above issues.)
     
  11. Oct 14, 2009 #31
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    I currently run Vista, and can verify that there is a bug wherein resizing a window while Gens/GS is set to render "Normal" does indeed disable Aero. However, running under any other mode (or at least all the ones I bothered to test) permits resizing without killing Aero.
     
  12. Oct 14, 2009 #32
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    When using the "Normal" renderer with DirectDraw, Gens/GS specifies that it should use system memory instead of video memory. Specifically, it tells DirectDraw to use the internal MD_Screen buffer directly.

    I'm wondering if that's what's causing this issue. I can try disabling this optimization in a test build later to see if that changes anything.

    Also, can you file a bug report? http://gs_server.gerbilsoft.ddns.info/bugs/
     
  13. Oct 14, 2009 #33
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    Bug report filed. Am I doing it right?
     
  14. Oct 14, 2009 #34
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    Yes you are. :) I'll take a look at that later today.
     
  15. Oct 15, 2009 #35
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    Hah, if it is really that big of a deal to you mister, submit a patch. That is what he is always telling me when I have an "awesome idea".
     
  16. Oct 15, 2009 #36
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    I don't give a damn what you think about Win7, but since Gens/GS seems to target Windows platforms (among others) I would think that you would have some plans to have good compatibility with the next major Windows release.

    Gee, you mean like giving you information on the legality of using the Windows 7 RC and giving you a link to an official source of CD Keys? I added the "you're an asshole" part in an edit because it was only after I posted when I realised that you were in fact being an asshole.

    Then that's fair enough, though I think you must be on crack to still be using Win98.
     
  17. Oct 15, 2009 #37
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    Dude, by basing his code on an OLDER version of windows, it insures compatibility straight down the line. If Gens/GS is built specifically for a certain version of windows, using API functions not present in older versions, it breaks backwards compatibility and leaves a lot of people angry. It may not work the way you like it, but at least it works. Modifying it would make it NOT work on older ones, so it is very different. Also, maybe he just doesn't WANT to do that, I mean, it's not like he has an obligation to a single one of us. He can do whatever the hell he wants with this project. Believe me, I used to be like you, thinking it was my god given right to get my way on everything, but in all actuality, it is not up to you. Being an open source project, though, means that if you see a problem, you can fix it yourself, and if your fix isn't counter-productive, you can send it to GerbilSoft for integration into the code base. Are we really getting anything done with all this "Do this for me, you HAVE to" type of crap. I finally got myself out of that mindset, and I really don't want to see anyone else like that.
     
  18. Oct 15, 2009 #38
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    How do you know the laptop can RUN anything newer than 98?
     
  19. Oct 15, 2009 #39
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    Specs from a site I found on Google:
    The laptop can handle Windows XP, but GerbilSoft is using it to install Windows 98SE on it.
     
  20. Oct 15, 2009 #40
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    I think Gerbil is using real hardware because virtual machines don't like Windows 98 for some reason.
     
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