[Sazpaimon]

So, anyone that was on the forums last night knows what happened. I'm not gonna pretend it didn't happen. For those just attending the classroom, Qjimbo basically tricked Tweaker into forcefully deadminning him in hopes to oust him from the forums completely. Now, as much as I didn't have any problem with this, LocalH did. I took it upon myself to "save" S2B by restoring it from my own personal backup, March 17th 2007.

Now, let's get down to brass tax.
I don't like Tweaker; not a lot of people do. So when he asked me to help him out with S2Beta, I naturally didn't care. He offered me a deal. He would step down from his admin position, and I would replace him as admin. LocalH agreed to this, so the motion was put into place.

In my todo list given to me by LocalH, he wanted Qjimbo fired. I've followed through by de-modding Qjimbo. LocalH may deal with him later. The other "offenders," you know who you are, may be dealt with as well.

Anyway, many of you are thinking, "Why Saz? He's an asshole who doesn't care what happens to the site." O'Contraire. I DO care what happens to this site, it was my first home in the Sonic Community dating back to the beginning of the millenium. It pains me to see what it's becomming and what is being done, or not done, in many cases, about it. I want to do whatever I can to maintain some form of order and stability, without completely taking away your rights as members. Does that mean "run rampant and post whatever you damn well please?" No. There are limitations to everything. But I am not going to get on your case if you decide to add a little off-topicness to the current topic. Random zanyness is ok, just as long as you don't go overboard or if it's really uncalled for. I'm not going to be a complete assholic hardass, and no, this forum will not become a Sonic CulT 2. I know I'm generally not liked for the way I conduct buisiness, but trust me, I AM capable of running a message board free of abuse.

So why did I troll the site in the first place? That's a toughie. The best way I can explain it is that then the site wasn't my problem to deal with, and "because I could." I basically came to realize I could do whatever I please without repercussions due to the incompetence of the administration. Well now this site IS my problem, and I'm gonna do my damnest to deal with it.

LocalH might decide to add his input in later, but I've said my piece, and I hope I can do better than Tweaker did. If you still don't think that I can be a capable admin, you're free to leave, and come back later to see if you were right or not. You might be pleasantly surprised.

[Sammybeany]

Wow, talk about Internet drama. :|

[Miles Prower]

Sazpaimon, on Mar 26 2007, 11:17 AM, said:

O'Contraire.

"Au contraire." :P

[Sazpaimon]

Miles Prower, on Mar 26 2007, 02:56 AM, said:

Sazpaimon, on Mar 26 2007, 11:17 AM, said:

O'Contraire.

"Au contraire." :P

Damn you google and your inferior spell checking

[Tylinos]

It's time for the obligatory input from some guy you've never heard of before.

From what I can see from the sparce details Saz just gave, Qjimbo tricked Tweaker in hopes of getting him Misfitted. The thing he did isn't really clear from what you said. Qjimbo somehow tricked Tweaker into demoting him so he could get him banned for abuse of power? Anyway, so then you took up a deal with Tweaker to become Admin in his place, yeah?

Alright, now that I've cleared that that up for myself, I'll stop repeating Saz and get to my point. I may not know all of what was going on, but it doesn't seem like we should be too concerned over the change-up. I'm not worried. It may not seem like it, but I've been around here for a long time before I registered an account, so I've seen this place survive a lot of drama...and stuff. Stuff like this is always going to happen, no matter who's in charge. That said, I've never been bothered much by the way this place has been run (aside from a few mishaps), and I don't have a reason to think it'll be any worse now. With that, good luck, 'n stuff.

That's all for my worthless comment on everything. Go back to whatever you were doing before I interrupted.

[Sazpaimon]

I didn't go into details, but for the new among us I shall.
S2Beta was hosted under my dedicated server since it's conception (post Simon). Recently I formatted my server and reinstalled it from scratch. During this time Tweaker saw the opportunity to move it off my server, because he didn't like the way I was hosting the site (I abused my power rampantly, showed a general disregard for the wellbeing of the site, and generally didn't care [see why in OP]), Qjimbo offered hosting on his server, but what he was really doing was scheming to remove Tweaker from the site alltogether, and run it himself. He was initially sucessful, but LocalH retaliated and the site finds itself back onto my server.

Hope that clears it up.

[Tweaker]

God speed, Saz. Hope you don't fuck us all over. ;P

Here's to a hopefully brighter future.

[Tylinos]

I hate to use up another post, but my edit time's up, and an edit would've been awkward here anyway. Right, enough of my excuses.

I knew about you hosting S2Beta, but I thought Tweaker said that he was moving it because of the Cult's downtime last week. Whatever the reason, I just hadn't known about Qjimbo's offer, so I think that clears it up for me. Hopefully that's all I have to say for a while, so I'll stop bothering everyone now.

[Gen]

Dammit to hell, I had regular member status too :P

[Techokami]

Well, that was a unique turn of events.

[Puto]

Does anybody have a backup of that hugeass thread called "I'm leaving" where this shit was pretty much laid out? I�pretty�much missed what happened�there after 3AM GMT, since I had to sleep and all that.

EDIT: Oh, and bring the IRC back plz.

This post has been edited by Puto: 26 March 2007 - 06:39 AM

[Sazpaimon]

Puto, on Mar 26 2007, 04:35 AM, said:

Does anybody have a backup of that hugeass thread called "I'm leaving" where this shit was pretty much laid out? I pretty much missed what happened there after 3AM GMT, since I had to sleep and all that.

EDIT: Oh, and bring the IRC back plz.

Qjimbo would have that somewhere. As far as IRC goes, the DNS is still propogating, so for now, connect via IP: 82.165.156.230

[Lemming 1545]

I too would be interested in seeing a backup copy of the second "I'm Leaving" thread, the one started by Pu7o.

I have to say I didn't think from the start that LocalH would take to this "revolution" idea very kindly, and when I saw him online last night, I pretty much figured something like this would happen. I'm glad to see that this whole nasty situation is resolved, at least, one way or the other.

[Skaarg]

I'm sure I'm going to be one of the few that come in here and say this after what happened, but despite the whole mess last night it was nice around here with the good old community members.

Maybe what happened last night with the whole website takeover was not exactly, but I do feel Qjimbo, GW, Quickman, Shade, and Fiz are right and we do need some change. De-admining Tweaker was something that many members wanted from the start when the website was handed down from Simon. I really think the administration should open up and listen to what they had to say because you obviously didn't before, and you paid the price.

If you notice too many members supported what Qjimbo and his group did. So this further proves that many members here want change.

[Tweaker]

"Too many"? Or just a select group? Do choose your words wisely, good sir.

In the end, it matters what LocalH, Saz and Hivebrain decide - not you guys. Maybe he'll lend more of an ear than I did, so I dunno.

And remember: An old community member isn't necessarily the best, just because they've been around long. Seniority is worth respect, but only if it isn't abused in such a way that it becomes detrimental to others.

As for me being de-admined... I probably could've stayed as admin if I truly wanted to, but realize that I DON'T - the majority of you are too fucking dense for me to want to watch over anymore.

Once again, remember - this board IS a dictatorship. This isn't S2Vangar, and for the love of god, it better not ever become it. What they decide is what happens.

"Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me."

This post has been edited by Tweaker: 26 March 2007 - 08:18 AM