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Yet Another Fucking Hoax? Quickman makes drama again!

#16 User is offline Cinossu 

Posted 09 November 2006 - 02:31 PM

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		Sonic 1		drx Proto	wai Proto	Sonic 2

Slot 00:
		GHZ 1		GHZ 1		EHZ 1		EHZ 1
		GHZ 2		GHZ 2		EHZ 2		EHZ 2

Slot 01:
		GHZ 3		GHZ 3		empty		empty
		empty		empty		empty		empty

Slot 02:
		LZ 1		empty		WZ 1		WZ 1 (leftover)
		LZ 2		empty		WZ 2		WZ 2 (leftover)

Slot 03:
		LZ 3		empty		empty		empty
		LZ 4		empty		empty		empty

Slot 04:
		MZ 1		CPZ 1		MZ 1		MZ 1
		MZ 2		CPZ 2		MZ 2		MZ 2

Slot 05:
		MZ 3		empty		MZ 3		MZ 3
		empty		empty		empty		empty

Slot 06:
		SLZ 1		EHZ 1		empty		WFZ 1
		SLZ 2		EHZ 2		empty		WFZ 2

Slot 07:
		SLZ 3		empty		HTZ 1		HTZ 1
		empty		empty		HTZ 2		HTZ 2

Slot 08:
		SYZ 1		HPZ 1		HPZ 1		HPZ 1 (leftover)
		SYZ 2		HPZ 2		HPZ 2		HPZ 2 (leftover)

Slot 09:
		SYZ 3		empty		empty		empty
		empty		empty		empty		empty

Slot 0A:
		SBZ 1		HTZ 1		OOZ 1		OOZ 1
		SBZ 2		HTZ 2		OOZ 2		OOZ 2

Slot OB:
		SBZ 3		empty		DHZ 1		MCZ 1
		empty		empty		DHZ 2		MCZ 2

Slot 0C:
		Ending		S1 Ending	CNZ 1		CNZ 1
									CNZ 2		CNZ 2
						
Slot 0D:					
									CPZ 1		CPZ 1
									CPZ 2		CPZ 2
						
Slot 0E:
									GCZ 1		DEZ 1
									GCZ 2		DEZ 2

Slot 0F:
									NGHZ 1		ARZ 1
									NGHZ 2		ARZ 2

Slot 10:
									DEZ 1		SCZ 1
									DEZ 2		SCZ 2

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Posted 09 November 2006 - 02:31 PM

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One would think I'd be less excited than this if this was a hoax (logs from #cult, when I played it for the first time):

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[18:37:44] <drx|zzz> ooooookay
[18:37:51] * drx|zzz is now known as drx
[18:37:55] <drx> gonna play the beta
[18:37:57] <drx> I'm scared

...

[18:40:15] <drx> HOYL SHIT
[18:40:21] <drx> GHOLY FUCKING SHIT
[18:40:36] <drx> HOLY FUCKING SHIT
[18:40:39] <drx> CNZ MUSIC IN EHZ
[18:40:41] <drx> SEGA SCREEN
[18:40:47] <drx> NO WAIT
[18:40:49] <drx> NOT CNZ MUSIC
[18:40:52] <drx> FUCKING STARLIGHT MUSIC
[18:40:53] <drx> ()@#$*)%*@#()%*
[18:40:54] <drx> !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[18:41:17] <drx> WOW
[18:41:19] <drx> DIFF EHZ LAYOUT
[18:41:23] * drx <3
[18:41:50] <drx> oh my god
[18:41:54] <drx> I'm in love

[18:42:48] <drx> holy fucking shit
[18:42:52] <drx> ehz layout is totally different

[18:46:23] <drx> wheres the damn level select
[18:46:26] <drx> I want level select

[18:47:13] <drx> OH
[18:47:13] <drx> MY
[18:47:14] <drx> FUCKING
[18:47:15] <drx> GOD
[18:47:17] <drx> @ CPZ
[18:47:25] <drx> pink background
[18:47:27] <drx> lol
[18:47:56] <drx> this is just fucking wonderful
[18:47:58] <drx> the beta is awesome
[18:47:59] <drx> !!!!!!!!!


This is by no means any evidence, just posting it for the record :(
This post has been edited by drx: 09 November 2006 - 02:33 PM

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What the above might show is that they were still considering three acts per zone..

EHZ 1 and 2. blank blank.
WZ 1 and 2. blank blank.
MZ 1, 2 and 3. blank.
blank blank. HTZ 1 and 2.
HPZ 1 and 2. blank blank.

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Everything seems to make sense in this prototype, doesn't look like a hoax.


Plus, I don't think drx would do such a thing.

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Posted 09 November 2006 - 02:57 PM

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Cinossu just about summed it up!

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Yeah, I honestly don't believe its a hoax. I was just kinda there, while we were talking. And even then, we all agreed that we aren't accusing it of being a hoax, just neutrally examining evidence for the sake of it.

I feel pretty safe saying that drx would never rip thousands of dollars off people for a hoax.

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I say it's probably real. The case label and the fact that it's probably equal to the Nick Arcade proto instead of something later like we expected are good.

I think if drx was trying to make a hoax of this, he would:
Make something that looks later than the wai proto.
Use the right level names on the level select.
Have all of the levels listed in the magazine.

Sure there's a concern about the sonic X-treme hoax, but wasn't that for April Fools?
Hasn't everything else he released been real?

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drx makes one wonderful contribution after another, and now you're saying that he may have fooled us? I can understand a suspicion (sp?) or two, but this is just fucking low.

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If this is a hoax, then it's a damned good one. While I'm no hacker myself, I understand the degree of difficulty involved in making such an intricate ROM. There are easier hoaxes to make, folks.

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My god, it's pretty damn obvious, to me at least.

#26 User is offline Pinkerton 

Posted 09 November 2006 - 06:18 PM

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View PostCinossu, on Nov 9 2006, 01:31 PM, said:

		Sonic 1		drx Proto	wai Proto	Sonic 2

Slot 02:
		LZ 1		empty		WZ 1		WZ 1 (leftover)
		LZ 2		empty		WZ 2		WZ 2 (leftover)


So... does that mean WS is accessible in a similar way to HPZ (via Game Genie) in Sonic 2? Is it restorable in the same way as HPZ?

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View PostMore Cowbell, on Nov 9 2006, 06:18 PM, said:

View PostCinossu, on Nov 9 2006, 01:31 PM, said:

		Sonic 1		drx Proto	wai Proto	Sonic 2

Slot 02:
		LZ 1		empty		WZ 1		WZ 1 (leftover)
		LZ 2		empty		WZ 2		WZ 2 (leftover)


So... does that mean WS is accessible in a similar way to HPZ (via Game Genie) in Sonic 2? Is it restorable in the same way as HPZ?

Yes, and it has been many, many times. =P

Any level is restorable, really.

#28 User is offline Hivebrain 

Posted 09 November 2006 - 06:40 PM

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It's far too elaborate to be a hoax. I don't think the amount of work involved in creating a hack like this would be worth $1500 either.

#29 User is offline Billy 

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View Postrika_chou, on Nov 9 2006, 04:09 PM, said:

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My god, it's pretty damn obvious, to me at least.

qfft

Quoted for fucking truth.

#30 User is offline Heran Bago 

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With his focus on school, I doubt drx had the time to string this together.
Plus, he's been hanging out with the right crowd. Of course, it's entirely possible that he's spent a year or more building up his image off this board and "dumping" other fake betas just to get money from people. But that's too inconvenient and unlikely in comparison to the non-conspiracy route.

I'm looking it on a personal level rather than a technical level. It is pretty cool that folks consider it a possible that drx has that much cunning.
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