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Sonic 3K - Huge inconsistency

#1 User is offline Orion 

Posted 18 December 2005 - 06:25 AM

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I was playing Sonic 3 and Knuckles, as Knuckles, and after Carnical Night noticed a massive inconsitency, and a really wierd one too.

At the end of Carnival Night 2 after the boss, Knuckles fires out of a cannon, but for some reason he teleports into Ice Cap. o_O

Any clues about what's going on?

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Posted 18 December 2005 - 06:59 AM

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uuhhh your not supposed to fight the boss as knuckles

#3 User is offline Orion 

Posted 18 December 2005 - 07:09 AM

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... You're not? XD

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Posted 18 December 2005 - 07:13 AM

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Knuckles is supposed to use a teleporter below the boss area. Remember where Knuckles flips the lifts on when you're Sonic? It's beyond that wall, and there is another lift below that Knuckles uses to access this area.

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Carnival Night zone 2 with Knuckles is damn easy, with no boss fight, and take you 2 minutes by taking the way below. You only have to break the wall at the right, once you are underwater at the beginning of the act. At the end, you are teleported. It's the direct opposite of Sonic way, that is long, with a boss fight, and pretty hard, at least for a beginneer.

I took the Sonic passage with Knuckes once too. Well, there is nothing too exciting.

#6 User is offline Orion 

Posted 18 December 2005 - 08:48 AM

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I've always taken this route... how odd.

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Posted 18 December 2005 - 09:01 AM

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Lemme guess, you glided after you left the speed boosteres at the begining of the act and went up the elevator thing.

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Yeah, they forgot to block off this path, you're suppost to go down where water used to be on Sonic's path.
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#8 User is offline Orion 

Posted 18 December 2005 - 09:22 AM

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Yep, that's the one. I'm used to taking that "shortcut". I'll have to try the real route next time through!

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Isn't there a bug that prevents you to use the teleporter sometimes?

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ICEknight, on Dec 18 2005, 01:59 PM, said:

Isn't there a bug that prevents you to use the teleporter sometimes?

If you try going there as Sonic, it won't work. The object is programmed to check the character used. If you're Knuckles, it'll work. If not, it'll abort the object function.

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Posted 18 December 2005 - 02:28 PM

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Of course, I meant playing as Knuckles. I remember being forced to fight the boss, but perhaps it was just a debug-related bug.

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If you try going there as Sonic, it won't work.


Oo;; Works for me just fine.

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Flame, on Dec 18 2005, 02:34 PM, said:

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If you try going there as Sonic, it won't work.


Oo;; Works for me just fine.

...really? Every time I tried using that teleporter, it never worked for me.

Remember, this is CNZ. Are you sure?

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ICEknight, on Dec 18 2005, 10:59 AM, said:

Isn't there a bug that prevents you to use the teleporter sometimes?

If you enter that area with the teleporter from above (the vertical gravity column thingy that Knuckles activates in Sonic's game), the egg prison won't appear and the teleporter won't work. It's only if you come from below, which is Knuckles intended path. And onyl Knuckles for that matter, if you try with Sonic it won't work, and if you move I believe it'll crash the game.

Interestingly enough, with Super Sonic it's legitametely possible to enter from below using knuckles path without using debug, though I suppose that's known already. Just a fun design oversight I like to exploit sometimes for fun in my completed save file XD

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jman2050, on Dec 18 2005, 06:17 PM, said:

ICEknight, on Dec 18 2005, 10:59 AM, said:

Isn't there a bug that prevents you to use the teleporter sometimes?

If you enter that area with the teleporter from above (the vertical gravity column thingy that Knuckles activates in Sonic's game), the egg prison won't appear and the teleporter won't work. It's only if you come from below, which is Knuckles intended path. And onyl Knuckles for that matter, if you try with Sonic it won't work, and if you move I believe it'll crash the game.

Nice to know there was some explanation behind it.

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