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Re: Sonic Megamix

#46 User is offline MathUser 

Posted 11 July 2016 - 02:34 AM

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I think the danger in sharing code with the public can be seen in the "character in Sonic game" hacks. In most of them every character has a attack which has the range of a punch and it makes playing multiple of these hacks boring. Couldn't the totally new characters have attacks with different ranges or something? I can see if they are copying Sonic Adventure or something where everyones punch is the same, but there's no reason Sally Acorn has to have just a explosion attack which only has the range of a fist.

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Posted 11 July 2016 - 03:40 AM

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Hey you could release the homing attack code to the public, and every time it's used I can point out you don't need it in 2D :specialed:


No, it's useful to have as much stuff as possible in the public domain, as it's an opportunity for people to learn. Having unused source code rotting on a hard drive does nothing for the world.

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Posted 11 July 2016 - 12:51 PM

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You all realize that this entire community is based on questionably legal IP-stealing practices. Engineering and reverse engineering is against every software EULA.

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Posted 12 July 2016 - 10:29 AM

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We get that some of you guys care a lot about people learning things "the right way", but please refrain from inhibiting resource releases that can help others focus on not having to reinvent the wheel.


Also, this topic got derailed fast.
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Posted 12 July 2016 - 05:48 PM

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View PostICEknight, on 12 July 2016 - 10:29 AM, said:

Also, this topic got derailed fast.

It's Megamix. Did you really expect any different? :P

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Posted 13 July 2016 - 07:37 AM

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View PostOverlord, on 10 July 2016 - 12:41 PM, said:

As others have mentioned, you could maybe be the best sprite artist ever but cannot program for toffee


What if you are like me and it's the other way round? I can't draw for shit! Can someone release some sprites for me please? ^_^

No seriously, I'm shit at drawing sprites, I need help...
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Posted 13 July 2016 - 07:56 AM

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View Postredhotsonic, on 13 July 2016 - 07:37 AM, said:

View PostOverlord, on 10 July 2016 - 12:41 PM, said:

As others have mentioned, you could maybe be the best sprite artist ever but cannot program for toffee


What if you are like me and it's the other way round? I can't draw for shit! Can someone release some sprites for me please? ^_^

People already do that all the time, there's lots of spritesheets around...

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Posted 13 July 2016 - 12:57 PM

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Releasing the source code will result in a positive contribution to the Sonic community. That's my opinion at least. Looking forward to the final release of the game.

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Posted 22 July 2016 - 03:57 AM

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Well this is...a thing. Realistically, you had to make SOME move, so I'm glad you're taking the initiative to do that much. I've got many things I can at least say for my own contribution, but I suppose those are best said in private. however, I very much wish you all the luck in the world on your own personal projects, and at the very least, you CAN shoot me a PM here at any time. I'm not dead yet! Severely occupied, but not enough that I won't give a listening ear at the very least

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Random aside, while most other people are mourning Megamix, I've been wondering for years now... Is Sonic Project Mettrix dead too? I've kept track of that project since its near-inception now, so I'd like to have closure on it to be sure.

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Posted 23 July 2016 - 04:34 PM

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I have changed my mind, I don't want to work on this anymore. I feel as though my work here has gone to utter waste anyway, I have better things to do than to work on a failing project.

Additional clarification here:

View PostStealth, on 02 July 2016 - 10:55 PM, said:

You just haven't done anything with Megamix lately, and it's not because of Bone Rattle, because you haven't been doing anything with that lately either.

No, it was because of Bone Rattle. I am not working on both Megamix & Bone Rattle at the same time. The reason I hadn't done anything with it "lately", was because I asked you questions for things I needed help with (since its your engine, and your help site is too large to cypher through), and I never got answers to. I reasked again months down the line, I still didn't get an answer that I needed to progress further.

I am aware that you are busy, and don't always have the time to answer questions, but what I'm asking here is that the facts remain straight, but all you've done is made me look like a cunt there. I don't take kindly to that.
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Posted 23 July 2016 - 08:31 PM

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View PostMarkeyJester, on 23 July 2016 - 04:34 PM, said:

I have changed my mind, I don't want to work on this anymore. I feel as though my work here has gone to utter waste anyway, I have better things to do than to work on a failing project.

Additional clarification here:

View PostStealth, on 02 July 2016 - 10:55 PM, said:

You just haven't done anything with Megamix lately, and it's not because of Bone Rattle, because you haven't been doing anything with that lately either.

No, it was because of Bone Rattle. I am not working on both Megamix & Bone Rattle at the same time. The reason I hadn't done anything with it "lately", was because I asked you questions for things I needed help with (since its your engine, and your help site is too large to cypher through), and I never got answers to. I reasked again months down the line, I still didn't get an answer that I needed to progress further.

I am aware that you are busy, and don't always have the time to answer questions, but what I'm asking here is that the facts remain straight, but all you've done is made me look like a cunt there. I don't take kindly to that.


Just as matter-of-fact dude, it doesn't seem that I have to be doing anything to make you look like a cunt right now

Aside from the fact that if you wanted to take issue with this, you should have done it weeks ago when it was first posted, this is an extreme overreaction topped off with a bold-faced lie. We already went over this in private. I missed what you said in the team chat a few times because it got scrolled away too quickly, but you didn't persist for the answer (bolded in the quotes- your words, I didn't even have to say it) and you never contacted me in private where I'd be sure to see it, only in the team group chat. And, the one specific thing you complained about primarily was something that I absolutely did talk to you about. I told you about the "swap" commands that take the place of that pile of other commands to accomplish the same task that you complained about, but you seem to keep forgetting these things. If you want to go around in public calling me out over shit, at least lay legitimate claims. Same as you say, if it's out, I want the truth out. I didn't try to make anyone look like a cunt, I just responded to what you said with the relevant facts. It was absolutely as civil and unbiased as possible. At this point, I'm not particularly motivated to take kindly to your talk, either

BTW, nice out-of-context quote. Maybe it's you that's actually trying to start some shit? I honestly can't tell

View PostStealth, on 02 July 2016 - 10:55 PM, said:

There was no offense. I didn't blame anybody, the thing just died. You're the only remaining member that I've had any contact with remotely recently, and you've had the real life issues you've been telling me about, and you've had the other mini projects you do. The way you churn those out, I don't know how you can be accused of being lazy. I also don't mind confirming that you took on the responsibilities of like five team members over time, and you performed nicely in each field. You just haven't done anything with Megamix lately, and it's not because of Bone Rattle, because you haven't been doing anything with that lately either. It's also died out; once we agreed there was a need to step back from it for a while there's been nothing to do


How, by any stretch of the english language, does that indicate that I want to label you as a "cunt"?

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Posted 23 July 2016 - 08:43 PM

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View PostAquaslash, on 22 July 2016 - 03:57 AM, said:

Well this is...a thing. Realistically, you had to make SOME move, so I'm glad you're taking the initiative to do that much. I've got many things I can at least say for my own contribution, but I suppose those are best said in private. however, I very much wish you all the luck in the world on your own personal projects, and at the very least, you CAN shoot me a PM here at any time. I'm not dead yet! Severely occupied, but not enough that I won't give a listening ear at the very least

Yo, man.. Just to cover my side of things, I sent you a couple of PMs on this board and direct skype/msn messages about this a good while ago. The fact that I sent them directly to you and not as part of something that could be easily skipped over, and how I had spaced out sending them, I got the impression that you were legit ignoring me for some reason so I didn't bother you anymore. Maybe they were lost in some kind of confusion? I don't know.. Exact same thing happened with Robjoe.. I've even seen the both of you sign into Skype a few times in the recent weeks and you had nothing to say to me (which is generally fine anyway, I don't fault people for not starting conversations frequently because I don't do it myself, either), but also, neither you nor Robjoe ever talked in the Skype Megamix chat I started with you invited, either, which is another thing that I had assumed would visibly pop up in your face the first time your client downloaded it, and for a little while, a lot was said in there. It has gone dead since, though, and I've long since lost the link after reinstalling Windows and updating Skype

Yeah, it's cool if your busy and all. I just couldn't tell if it was that or either of you had some kind of problem with me. There had been enough going on with a lot of things to make that sort of thing easy for me to believe

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Posted 23 July 2016 - 08:58 PM

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So contributors ignoring main programmers can lead to death of projects. Good to know. Too bad nobody thought of that before.

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Posted 23 July 2016 - 11:40 PM

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Yeah, just so it's actually specified here, this is why I haven't been working on Megamix myself lately



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