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The top Mega Drive Sonic mods For a feature in Retro Gamer

#1 User is offline NiktheGreek 

Posted 11 April 2016 - 09:18 AM

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Hi guys, seems a bit weird to be asking this after having run the SSRG ROM Hack Archive back in the day, but I need your help.

I'm looking to feature five Sonic mods in an upcoming issue of Retro Gamer, but I'm a bit out of the loop in terms of what is out there these days. So if you were going to introduce people to the world of Sonic modding, which ones would you jump to first? If you could give me suggestions as to which hacks you'd like to see immortalised in print, that'd be most appreciated.

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Looking at the winning entries for the Sonic Hacking Contest over the last few years would probably be a good bet, as you are assured of the quality of the hack in question, and whether it's worth playing:

I'd personally recommend Knuckles' Emerald Hunt and Big's Fishing Derby as a showcase of how you can take one of the original games and make something completely different with it.

Other notable hacks that you could look at are Sonic: The Next Level (A one level hack by MarkeyJester which won the last contest), Doctor Robotnik's Creature Capture (Play as Robotnik with a net and collect animals for the Egg Prisons in the various levels of Sonic 1, with a nice slew of extras), and the somewhat infamous by now, Sonic Megamix.
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While making a 'top' list is rather hard due to the sheer variety of mods, Sonic Megamix is one of the cream-of-the-crop mods out there, so I feel it'd be remiss to not at least mention it. It's also a prime example of an originally Genesis game using the Sega CD as a means to expand the game even further while still mantaining Genesis elements.

Sonic 2 Retro Remix has always been a favorite of mine. It's a creative departure from the more traditional hacks out there while not making things needlessly complicated or something.

Big's Fishing Derby and/or Robotnik's Creature Capture are good examples of mods changing the game into something completely... unexpected to say the least.

Sonic Classic Heroes would be another personal choice, if only because of how simple the concept is yet how amazing the execution ended up.

And finally, Sonic 3 Complete. While it's easily the most simple of the bunch, it has so much polish, attention to detail, customization, and thought put into it that it makes it impossible for me to go back to vanilla 3&K. It's just that bloody good.

...All these years of lurking paid off. :V Also don't forget Sonic 1 Omochao Edition, a masterpiece of our generation.

EDIT: refined because I can't read the painfully obvious "Mega drive" in the title.
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View PostDigitalDuck, on 14 October 2015 - 11:20 AM, said:

Sonic Classic Heroes - all levels from Sonic 1 and 2, with Sonic, Tails, Knuckles, any two, or all three, Espio, Charmy, Vector, any two, or all three, and more to come, with Super and Hyper forms, and a Chaotix mode. Effectively replaces both Sonic 1 and Sonic 2.
Sonic 3 Complete - S3K with some bugfixes, choice of music and sprites, and optional level changes based on original designs. Effectively replaces Sonic 3 & Knuckles.
Super Sonic in Sonic 3D - Sonic 3D, minus Flickies, plus Super Sonic. Doesn't replace Sonic 3D, but certainly shakes it up.

Other awesome hacks:
Sonic 2 Retro Remix - new levels, new moves, objective-based gameplay.
Robotnik's Revenge - a time trial boss rush for all bosses in Sonic 1 and 2.
S3K - The Challenges - a set of challenges for levels from Sonic 3 & Knuckles.
Sonic VR - a set of unique challenge levels.
Jester's Challenge - a confusing maze level with several gimmicks that keep things fresh.
Big's Fishing Derby - the greatest hack ever made.

I'd also add Sonic: The Next Level, but that wasn't around when I made that post.

If I had to narrow those down to five to demonstrate for variety's sake, I guess:
- Sonic Classic Heroes (improves and adds to the original games)
- Sonic 2 Retro Remix (essentially a brand new Sonic game)
- Robotnik's Revenge (a new mode to the original games)
- Sonic: The Next Level (pushing the Mega Drive to its limit)
- Big's Fishing Derby (a completely different game entirely)

Showing Sonic 3 Complete is just going to be lost on most people as it's effectively "old game plus bugfixes" - something new is more impressive for a magazine. S3K: The Challenges has a similar problem.

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Most of my choices have already been listed, but I'd throw Sonic 2 Recreation into the ring. It feels like a legitimate Sonic 4. Just as short too, but, eh.

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Thanks for the recommendation, Clownacy!

NiktheGreek, I haven't seen you about for ages! Anyway, if you get bored of showing a load of single player hacks, then maybe you can show this "multiplayer-only" hack of mine, Sonic Bash! ^_^

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Sad to see nobody mentioned Metal Sonic Hyperdrive for the higher quality level designs & being one of the very few, if not, the most complete Sonic Hacks out there to the point that it totally feels like a new game.

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Don't be too bummed, only five people replied to this thread. For what it's worth, I loved Hyperdrive and passed it around to a few of my friends. I'd say it's one of the greats, certainly in my top 5.

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Don't worry, we've got time to spare - I won't be starting on this feature for weeks yet.

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I don't think you can get any more biased than praising your own hack, and then complaining that others haven't been.
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The point still stands though. That hack is one of the few high quality, fully designed, and complete hacks, yet it kind of always flies under the radar unrecognized. Even though he oddly plugged his own hack, he's not wrong.

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rhs plugged his own hack, but I didn't object to it. It's playing the 'underrated' card that screams 'stop not liking things I like'. It seems odd to attack people's opinions in a thread that's all about opinions.

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Hey now Clownacy, its not like Lone Devil does this always and his hack is great anyway... Wait, thats not right at all. I think Hyperdrive is actually overrated for what its worth, and it doesnt help that the creator keeps plugging it like its the best thing since Megamix and everyone should play it. Hey actually, maybe that's why nobody mentions it. Who knew!

Anyway, on the topic itself, as many people have said, Sonic 1 Next Level, Sonic Bash, and Sonic Boom come to mind first.
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Falling to personal attacks. Keep it classy, Retro. :rolleyes:

For what it's worth, I'd nominate Sonic Megamix, Sonic 2 Advanced Edit, Sonic 1 Next Level and Metal Sonic Hyperdrive as my "must-play" hacks. Megamix and Advanced Edit have always been in an air of their own and got me in the community in the first place, and the latter two show both great level layouts and fun, unique experiences from start to finish.

This is isn't a dick waving contest, though, and let's keep the "overrated" garbage out of this thread. I'm sure Nik doesn't appreciate it and just wants some solid hacks to use for his article.
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What DalekSam said. Hint hint.

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