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Naoto Oshima's new original character shouldn't be stolen

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I think they look great.

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At first glance, I thought they were very Wind Waker-esque. I like them, I reckon people are jumping on the hate-wagon just cuz it's the thing to do when the creator of Sonic The Hedgehog shows off his latest stuff which clearly can't ever be as iconic as Sonic and thus, clearly must be shit with no in-between. :colbert:

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View PostSpeedStarTMQ, on 24 May 2015 - 04:46 PM, said:

At first glance, I thought they were very Wind Waker-esque. I like them, I reckon people are jumping on the hate-wagon just cuz it's the thing to do when the creator of Sonic The Hedgehog shows off his latest stuff which clearly can't ever be as iconic as Sonic and thus, clearly must be shit with no in-between. :colbert:/>/>/>

No one is calling those shit because it's not up to Sonic standards. They're calling them shit because they're shit. If anyone else made these, they'd still be called shit. It's the fact that Naoto made these that makes it all the more surprising and disturbing. The shittiness of the designs is not changed by this.
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View PostSpeedStarTMQ, on 24 May 2015 - 04:46 PM, said:

At first glance, I thought they were very Wind Waker-esque. I like them, I reckon people are jumping on the hate-wagon just cuz it's the thing to do when the creator of Sonic The Hedgehog shows off his latest stuff which clearly can't ever be as iconic as Sonic and thus, clearly must be shit with no in-between. :colbert:/>/>


My problem with them is that they really don't fit with the rest of the game's art.

Here's what characters in the game look like
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Here are some monsters, virtually all of which are recruitable.
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Here's what bonus characters introduced in a crossover event from The Last Story (another Mistwalker game) looks like
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Here's what a bonus character designed by another guest artist looks like
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In all these cases, the characters essentially get written into the Terra Battle lore. (Yes, despite it being a mobile game, there's a rich story and setting, with a lot of interwoven narratives, etc. Not surprising considering it's a Hironobu Sakaguchi game)

Here's another guest character, Jaguna, that gets a shit ton of flak looks like. (All three pictures are the same character mind you, with art/lore that is both inconsistent with the game and with itself. I mean seriously what is even going on)
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Just like Jaguna, Oshima's contribution really doesn't mesh with the game at all. People aren't ragging on him just for being bad, which is subjective (and if they do, it's their prerogative, opinions etc). They're ragging on him because it simply doesn't fit. If Jaguna gets no quarter, then I don't see why an obvious Sonic parody that looks even less like the game's art style should.

Yes, you'd get Oshima to draw Oshima-style art in the first place, but really, this is a severe case of round peg square hole, and Oshima did virtually nothing to even try] to mesh with the game. (Whether that's his fault, or he simply wasn't given enough direction, e.g. it's Mistwalker's fault, the sum-of-all-parts result is still abysmal)

And that's not even getting into the whole 'lol Sonic' internet pitchfork mob mentality yet.

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I think you crossed some wires somewhere, we're talking about these fitting the game they're in (which is Away Shuffle, not Terra Battle) and being perfectly fine but still being posted as an example of bad for no good reason

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It's fairly obvious the ones in the OP don't fit their game at all.
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Oh derp. I brought up that image to highlight the inherent intentional goofiness, which I still think is the main factor that contributed to OP being OP.


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(Although personally it still looks both generic and tryhard to me, but hey, opinions etc)
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eh, a touch generic, sure, but don't really feel it's tryhard. point being even if it is, it's nowhere near the level of "this is bad" as his work on Terra Battles is by sheer virtue of clashing art style.

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I like the Terra Battle designs in themselves, am particularly curious to have full artwork of the girl and monster. they just don't fit at all

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Just play the game. :V

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