[Overlord]

Gods, why the fuck would you release Sonic X with only the dub? The dub was atrocious.

Reminds me I never completed my JP DVD set though. Wonder how impossible those are to find now...

[Lanzer]

Question, are you guys going to fix the levels between the voices and background music for these releases? I remember that at times, the music was really blasting and drowned out the voice acting.

Background music should be in the background, not blasting on par with the voices.

[Kiddo Cabbusses]

Dub-only? I'd rather not let the scars of 4Kids' prior existence linger. Furthermore, Sonic is in bad enough shape as it is after the recent slew of questionable releases. So far as I'm concerned, I'd rather have no Sonic X at all than an exclusively dub-only release.

If we're gonna throw this on DVD thoug, we may as well go the extra mile and include this as an extra as well.

[D.A. Garden]

I hope this means that the UK will finally have more than just the first 8 episodes of Season 1 available.

As it currently stands, we've only got the first 8 episodes, separated onto 4 individual discs as Volumes, and they still go for about £3 - £5 each. I'd much prefer the Japanese version with English subtitles, but anything is better than what we currently have.

[Mendinso]

Lanzer, on 08 April 2015 - 01:39 PM, said:

Question, are you guys going to fix the levels between the voices and background music for these releases? I remember that at times, the music was really blasting and drowned out the voice acting.

Background music should be in the background, not blasting on par with the voices.

That's a mixing issue on the master end. I believe some of these issues were corrected after the initial broadcast on television, but if they still remain there, I doubt Discotek will be able to correct it. The only way this would even be possible is if the original materials still existed, which is probably unlikely at this point and time.

D.A. Garden, on 08 April 2015 - 02:06 PM, said:

I hope this means that the UK will finally have more than just the first 8 episodes of Season 1 available.

As it currently stands, we've only got the first 8 episodes, separated onto 4 individual discs as Volumes, and they still go for about £3 - £5 each. I'd much prefer the Japanese version with English subtitles, but anything is better than what we currently have.

Discotek generally only licenses the stuff for the North American market, though I'd imagine there might exist a few titles which they may have additional rights. Still, even if they did have the UK rights, the problem is that a distributor would have to pick up the rights to the show, as Discotek does not have any infrastructure set up in UK.

This post has been edited by Mendinso: 08 April 2015 - 03:50 PM

[Kushami]

Just to update you guys on stuff:

-We want to release it subtitled, but the dub is all that's available to us right now. Not to burst your bubble, but the dub will likely sell 100x better than the sub even if it's edited.
-If you ever want to see it subtitled, pick up the dub. If no one picks up the dub, there's no reason to release the subtitled version which costs more to produce and will have lower sales.
-I'd have to look into the music video you're talking about. Is there a link somewhere? If it has 4kids branding, probably not.
-I love that DBZ Kai preview; that's hilariously awesome. I never knew Piccolo was a Saiyan too... hahaha.
-New audio mix, this is almost always impossible. You have to find the original stems plus music and effects. The most you ever get on these masters are the M&Es and the final mix, unfortunately.
-Pretty sure Sonic X doesn't have HD masters, so I don't think Bluray would make sense, but that's not my call.

[Shakidna]

How about a recut of the English dub with original music?

e: actually didn't the Japanese DVDs have separate tracks for voices, sfx, and music? All that remains is getting the VO stems from 4kids.

This post has been edited by Shakidna: 08 April 2015 - 05:36 PM

[Kiddo Cabbusses]

Kushami, on 08 April 2015 - 04:03 PM, said:

-I love that DBZ Kai preview; that's hilariously awesome. I never knew Piccolo was a Saiyan too... hahaha.

Technically that was an excerpt from a whole half hour of Toonzai previews narrated by Sonic, just that the DBZ Kai one is so badly done it's the most hilarious of the bunch. The rest are more cookie-cutter 4Kids-type faire.

4Kids did a lot of weird mashup stuff like that with their promo material, since Sonic was one of their higher-rated TV programs. Maybe if you dig around the internet you can find some of the earlier stuff.

[Kushami]

Shakidna, on 08 April 2015 - 05:29 PM, said:

How about a recut of the English dub with original music?

You realize that would actually be harder than remixing the show as it is, right?

[Mecha Sally]

Kushami, on 08 April 2015 - 04:03 PM, said:

-If you ever want to see it subtitled, pick up the dub. If no one picks up the dub, there's no reason to release the subtitled version which costs more to produce and will have lower sales.

I really don't like it when companies do these sort of things. "Yeah, we MIGHT release the better version, but only if you pick up this crappy version that you don't really want! /> "

But if it helps... I'll consider buying a box set of the dub, assuming it's priced decently.

This post has been edited by Mecha Sally: 08 April 2015 - 06:11 PM

[Kiddo Cabbusses]

Mecha Sally, on 08 April 2015 - 06:10 PM, said:

I really don't like it when companies do these sort of things. "Yeah, we MIGHT release the better version, but only if you pick up this crappy version that you don't really want! />/>/> "

Yeah, this kind of shit in particular FUCKED OVER Zatch Bell and Astro Boy 2003. (And Cyborg 009 2001 to some extent as well.)

This post has been edited by Kiddo Cabbusses: 08 April 2015 - 06:19 PM

[Kushami]

Mecha Sally, on 08 April 2015 - 06:10 PM, said:

Kushami, on 08 April 2015 - 04:03 PM, said:

-If you ever want to see it subtitled, pick up the dub. If no one picks up the dub, there's no reason to release the subtitled version which costs more to produce and will have lower sales.

I really don't like it when companies do these sort of things. "Yeah, we MIGHT release the better version, but only if you pick up this crappy version that you don't really want! />/> "

But if it helps... I'll consider buying a box set of the dub, assuming it's priced decently.

I want to clarify that this is less an ultimatum and more a business fact for ANYTHING like this.

Companies don't say things like that to piss people off, they do it because of the financial model. If the version that's going to sell better still doesn't sell well, why spend money on something that's guaranteed to lose money?

That said, we generally make every effort to put out both versions if it's financially feasible or the rights are there. You're talking about the company that released MONSTER RANCHER subtitled. It's just in this case they asked us to stick to the dub, so that's what's happening. Good sales could help convince the licensor to allow us to do the subbed version. It could not, too. Who knows. But it's the one thing you could do to help push for it is all I'm saying. They could also just randomly say it's okay the next day as well. That's happened before too.

[Yuski]

If there's a chance of an Uncut Sonic X release happen, I'll buy this Sonic X Edited Box to support it (even I having all season sets released by Funimation).

Would be nicve if Discotek bring Sonic OVA/ Sonic the Hedgehog Movie, it's the only Sonic animation I don't have in official form.

[Kiddo Cabbusses]

Yuski, on 08 April 2015 - 06:26 PM, said:

Would be nicve if Discotek bring Sonic OVA/ Sonic the Hedgehog Movie, it's the only Sonic animation I don't have in official form.

I would imagine if Discotek got the ability to grab any of those anime licensed ADV couldn't get, they'd start with things that don't already have DVD releases. For example, I'd say the Fire Emblem OVAs would be an interesting pick (and the timing would be a LOT better than when ADV released the original videos), although it's possible they would want to redub them because lolMARS.

[Yuski]

If there's a chance of an Uncut Sonic X release happen, I'll buy this Sonic X Edited Box to support it (even I having all season sets released by Funimation).

Would be nicve if Discotek bring Sonic OVA/ Sonic the Hedgehog Movie, it's the only Sonic animation I don't have in official form