[ICEknight]

TheKazeblade, on 04 January 2015 - 03:34 AM, said:

I know '06 is far beyond saving, but what I'm getting at is, has this yielded discoveries that might be able to help "fix" '06 to an extent?

First you'd have to fix Lost World. =P

[Lanzer]

Paraxade, on 03 January 2015 - 04:10 PM, said:

Lanzer, on 03 January 2015 - 11:53 AM, said:

Wow, this is great! so how much do you guys think of this LW research can benefit Generations PC? I'm guessing by mounds considering that LW and SGPC share similarities.

Not really at all honestly. If anything it's had the most benefit on Sonic 06/Colors modding, since they all use the same offset table format, which Dario and I cracked from looking at the Lost World files. That opens the door for a lot of Sonic 06/Colors mods, which led to this:



As far as Generations is concerned there isn't really anything in here that helps.

Aww, thats a shame. Console modding doesn't interest me too much, its a cool concept but unlike a PC you have to have a modded console and its not very open or user friendly which leaves the amount of people who can do it down to a limited number.

[Lobotomy]

Well I guess it's time to start using the cling-to-walls-unless-stopped-or-slow parkour system I made for Generations almost a year before Lost World was even announced.


:3

This post has been edited by Lobotomy: 04 January 2015 - 02:47 PM

[Dark Sonic]

So, question to which the answer is probably no. But would it be at all feasible to back port wisp powers to Sonic Generations, or if not that, Sonic Colors (and vice versa)? Obviously some wouldn't work like the rhythm one (but who would miss that), but Eagle in Colors or Hover in Generations could be kinda fun.

[Lobotomy]

You'd need the source for both games to do that without spending months to years deconstructing the game. It's not as simple as injecting the resources.

This post has been edited by Lobotomy: 04 January 2015 - 08:59 PM

[Dark Sonic]

Lobotomy, on 04 January 2015 - 08:54 PM, said:

You'd need the source for both games to do that without spending months to years deconstructing the game. It's not as simple as injecting the resources.

Ah. You see I wasn't sure how that worked in Colors or Lost World, so I thought it could be theoretically possible. Then again if source editing was an option someone would have tweaked Classic Sonic significantly long ago.

[Paraxade]

basically, you can port assets (models, textures, sounds, music, animations) and you can't port code (gimmicks, objects, physics behavior) without doing way too much work. most port projects you see just move large amounts of assets from one game to another.

[SuperSonicRider]

Does Sonic Lost World have any models for other "typical" Modern Sonic gimmicks? (like, Springboards (Jump Ramps? I don't know exactly what to call them), Dash Rings, Rainbow Rings, stuff like that?) I still don't have the game yet, but in all the playthroughs & time attacks & whatnot I've seen, I just realized that those gimmicks are notably absent here. Unless I'm missing something terribly obvious?

[Azukara]

IIRC there are no dash ramps, rainbow rings, etc. Maybe they were removed to give you more incentive to parkour or something?

Really liked that this game had the old springs in it too.

[Paraxade]

As far as unused content is concerned, there's a HUD texture that references Yacker, the wisp from Sonic Colors. There also seems to be assets for the Quake wisp, which is only in the 3DS version. (Would post a picture, but I don't have the model viewing stuff; maybe Dario can take one tomorrow.) Aside from that, we haven't seen anything, though I dunno that any of us have really looked.

If you're interested in what object models it has though, these are all the models in the CommonObject pacs:

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cmn_obj_ballooncannon.model
cmn_obj_boundbell.model
cmn_obj_cannon.model
cmn_obj_cannonprize.model
cmn_obj_cannonSV.model
cmn_obj_dashroller.model
cmn_obj_dashroller_GR.model
cmn_obj_dashroller_SV.model
cmn_obj_goalring.model
cmn_obj_ironbox_HD.model
cmn_obj_item_barrier.model
cmn_obj_item_muteki.model
cmn_obj_item_speedup.model
cmn_obj_item_thunder.model
cmn_obj_item_warp.model
cmn_obj_itemballoon.model
cmn_obj_itembox.model
cmn_obj_itembox_fly.model
cmn_obj_jumppanel15S_HD.model
cmn_obj_jumppanel30L_HD.model
cmn_obj_jumppanel30M_HD.model
cmn_obj_jumppanel30S_HD.model
cmn_obj_note.model
cmn_obj_numberring.model
cmn_obj_numberring_1.model
cmn_obj_numberring_2.model
cmn_obj_numberring_3.model
cmn_obj_numberring_4.model
cmn_obj_numberring_5.model
cmn_obj_oneup.model
cmn_obj_pointmarkerairL.model
cmn_obj_pointmarkerairR.model
cmn_obj_pointmarkerairSV.model
cmn_obj_pointmarkerL.model
cmn_obj_pointmarkerR.model
cmn_obj_pointmarkerSV.model
cmn_obj_popupspringR.model
cmn_obj_popupspringY.model
cmn_obj_prism_b.model
cmn_obj_prism_r.model
cmn_obj_redring.model
cmn_obj_redring_hide.model
cmn_obj_releasebox.model
cmn_obj_releaseboxmini.model
cmn_obj_releaseboxmini_idle.model
cmn_obj_ring.model
cmn_obj_ring_lod00.model
cmn_obj_ring_lod01.model
cmn_obj_spring.model
cmn_obj_springbig.model
cmn_obj_superring.model
cmn_obj_switch.model
cmn_obj_thorn.model
cmn_obj_thornball.model
cmn_obj_thornball_lod01.model
cmn_obj_thornball_S.model
cmn_obj_thornpanel.model
cmn_obj_Undergroundbomb.model
cmn_obj_wispaste.model
cmn_obj_wispdrl.model
cmn_obj_wispegl.model
cmn_obj_wisphvr.model
cmn_obj_wisplas.model
cmn_obj_wisprkt.model
cmn_obj_wisprtm.model
cmn_obj_woodbox_HD.model
epm_ob_com_yh1_spring.model
epm_wc_com_wt1_shockwave02.model
epm_wc_com_wt1_shockwave03.model

This post has been edited by Paraxade: 05 January 2015 - 03:45 AM

[Blue Blood]

The Quake Wisp is in the Wii U version, just saying. You find it in multiplayer only as a way of slowing down your opponent, so it makes sense that it's in the game.

[Paraxade]

Oh okay, I didn't recognize it and when I did a quick google I found a page that said it was only in the 3DS version. Guess that's not actually anything interesting then :P

[Blue Blood]

Also, IIRC, Yacker is appears in on the map screen a lot. He's not named, but he's there.

[The KKM]

Yeah, he's the one giving you extra missions to do IIRC? Either that or the one who sends and receives gifts like extra 1ups

[Paraxade]

Yeah, IIRC it was his name written out as a HUD graphic. I'm not sure if it's used anywhere, but Zoney seemed to think so and I don't remember seeing it anywhere.

It's not too super interesting either way, honestly.