[David The Lurker]

I'd only accept Tails Doll if they used the same exact model. Make everyone else super modern. Tails Doll remains in 32-bit.

[Covarr]

Sonic R is the most slippery game I've ever played. Enough so that if a sequel were made and it weren't slippery, it wouldn't really be a proper sequel. Sadly, that also means that a proper sequel wouldn't be fun enough for me to bother with.

[JaredAFX]

NioZero, on 19 February 2014 - 10:56 AM, said:

I actually didn't like Sonic R... The control was very weird and the game was very short (in a couple of hours you can get all emerald and characters).

A couple of hours? Try 20 minutes if you really know what you're doing. I've seen my friend do it in front of me plenty of times.

I'd be down for a Sonic R 2. It'd probably need a different name because, you know, copyright... It's not my favorite racing game ever, but if they were to tighten the controls up, it'd probably be a fun time.

This post has been edited by JaredAFX: 19 February 2014 - 05:06 PM

[NiktheGreek]

I actually like Sonic R, it's a pretty unique product with some very cool ideas. I even like the handling - the game needs to lean on the heavy racing-style controls than platforming to emphasise the importance of taking a proper racing line.

Any hypothetical Sonic R 2 would ideally build on the key strength of the original, which was the stage design. The amount of shortcuts and alternate routes available was awesome, and could be greatly expanded with current technology - lending additional weight to the exploration goals for each stage. With the added stages and improved mechanics needed to become a boxed product today, I could see it becoming pretty cool. It's kind of sad that there's no real call for it.

[SpeedStarTMQ]

There's no doubt that Sonic R holds up, but it was so simplistic and quick and easy to finish that how could it not? It's as enjoyable as it was back then, but after a few hours playing that it. I first played it in 2005 on Gems Collection, and it is utterly playable. Everything looks like it should, the environments are distinctive and nice, and it's a game you'd play for short periods to kill a bit of time on a summers day. To call it a full game is an insult to full games; this is more like a mini game you'd expect in a full Dreamcast title.

Would I want a Sonic R 2? Well to be honest that's a hard answer... they could do a lot with it, but would they? Sonic's never been good on hoverboards and as nice as vehicles are, they detract from what makes Sonic games so appealing. Mario is an actual man, he needs a kart. Sonic has speedy legs, and so do all his mates.

This post has been edited by SpeedStarTMQ: 19 February 2014 - 05:58 PM

[NiktheGreek]

SpeedStarTMQ, on 19 February 2014 - 05:58 PM, said:

To call it a full game is an insult to full games; this is more like a mini game you'd expect in a full Dreamcast title.

Since you didn't play the game until it was the better part of a decade old, you might not know the context - many racing games featured a similar level of content at the time. None of the Ridge Racer games featured more than five tracks until Ridge Racer Type 4 and Sega's arcade conversions typically didn't expand on the small selection of tracks in the original coin-ops, yet they were considered acceptable (and often exceptional) at the time.

[Glisp]

The KKM, on 19 February 2014 - 04:28 AM, said:

... while I'd certainly enjoy a Sonic R 2, I must say the idea of complaining the All-Stars Racing series control badly and thus going back to Sonic R as if that were any better is a bit baffling />

But yes, a Sonic R 2 that'd actually control, with a sense of aesthetics on the same line as the first one, would be great.

Well Dunno if you knew this or not but the PC version's controls were much more crisp than the Saturn's. You have a lot more control over the characters in the PC version. Since the version in Gems collection is a direct port of the PC version, the better controls were also carried over. I've had the opportunity of playing both versions and there is indeed something wrong with the Saturn version's controls. I'm not sure if it was intentional or what but you lose control on sharp turns a lot more easily in the Saturn Version than the PC and Gems collection versions. (even with the sharp turn buttons.)

The problem with making a Sonic R 2 would be people bitching about what characters should be included/excluded. Then you have the retards that like making creepy pastas about Tails Doll..... (well even before Creepy Pasta became a "thing" people were telling stories about Tails Doll to try and scaremonger stupid and possibly mentally retarded Sonic fanboys. In reality, Tails Doll is just.... a doll. Kind of creepy due to how he behaves (becomes lifeless if he comes in fourth or lower and that creepy floating move he uses to gain speed.) but not "cursed" like some people seem to think.

For those of you looking for more stuff to do in Sonic R that haven't done it yet, try racing as Amy. Beating every level as her is very rewarding.

[ICEknight]

Billy, on 19 February 2014 - 02:34 PM, said:

My favorite part of Sonic R was unlocking all the content. Just racing itself in that game was pretty boring, but unlocking everything was challenging.

But you unlock those by racing, so... your favorite part from the game is when you can finally stop playing it?

[DimensionWarped]

It's a terrible idea if for no other reason than that people wouldn't buy it.

[Billy]

ICEknight, on 19 February 2014 - 10:16 PM, said:

Billy, on 19 February 2014 - 02:34 PM, said:

My favorite part of Sonic R was unlocking all the content. Just racing itself in that game was pretty boring, but unlocking everything was challenging.

But you unlock those by racing, so... your favorite part from the game is when you can finally stop playing it?

Now that's not exactly true -- You have to collect things along the track while racing in order to unlock everything. But yes, I'm not overly fond of Sonic R, but I like the completionist aspect.

[muteKi]

NiktheGreek, on 19 February 2014 - 06:40 PM, said:

SpeedStarTMQ, on 19 February 2014 - 05:58 PM, said:

To call it a full game is an insult to full games; this is more like a mini game you'd expect in a full Dreamcast title.

Since you didn't play the game until it was the better part of a decade old, you might not know the context - many racing games featured a similar level of content at the time. None of the Ridge Racer games featured more than five tracks until Ridge Racer Type 4 and Sega's arcade conversions typically didn't expand on the small selection of tracks in the original coin-ops, yet they were considered acceptable (and often exceptional) at the time.

Plus, I think compared to Mario 64 or Crash Team Racing each level feels just a little bit better thought out, or at least has a lot more interesting stuff going on. It can't quite choose whether to lean on mascot racer or more realistic sim, but the balance it strikes between the two doesn't cause the game to suffer much unless you really want one or the other. For me I think it balances the two sensibilities rather well.

The one big shame about the level design is that the balloon mode is bugged, because it suits the more open level design style VERY well.

[Skyler]

I love Sonic R. It's the best bad Sonic game there is, so it makes it better than all the good Sonic games. I'd be down for a sequel.

David The Lurker, on 19 February 2014 - 02:52 PM, said:

I'd only accept Tails Doll if they used the same exact model. Make everyone else super modern. Tails Doll remains in 32-bit.

This is also a prerequisite.

[A Knothole Resident]

I only cared about the soundtrack. The game is a broken mess.

[SpeedStarTMQ]

A Knothole Resident, on 20 February 2014 - 03:00 AM, said:

I only cared about the soundtrack. The game is a broken mess.

In what sense?

[Conzuh]

Sonic R was the game that got me into Sonic, so naturally, I love it to bits.

Somehow, I don't think a proper sequel world work today, let alone compete with the other fantastic games on the Market. Don't shoot me for this but I think a Sonic R game (Port or sequel) would work better on mobile devices, possibly including gyro controls.

Being outdated doesn't stop it from being fun, and I'm sure people would buy it again for £1.99 on the App Store, which also give SEGA the option of adding more characters and bonus content as DLC (Just don't make it freemium, for God's sake).

Also, in a thread about Sonic R, I think it's obligatory to make a comment about the music. Despite being cheesy as hell, it somehow remains superb. Including a remix of "Take me back in time" in SART made me happier than it should have.