[Meat Miracle]

Master Emerald, on 05 August 2012 - 12:28 PM, said:

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If you consider using 1% of your GPU a waste then you should stick to Windows 2000.

It's not just 1%, when you start using programs like Photoshop, Sketchup or any 3D windowed application, you do notice some drop on performance. Also, it doesn't give you any benefit, as you can add all the tidbits with 3rd party programs for the Classic Skin.

I don't know Sketchup, but Photoshop uses OpenGL acceleration which has fuck all to do with Aero. And it's actually smoother with that than without, so...

As for customizing the classic skin, that will actually run slower because it will have to use GDI+ objects on your videocard, which runs on your cpu and not your gpu (they are brute force rasterized into framebuffer immediately, but still computed with the cpu) - so it's slower, and since it taxes your CPU more it is also less power efficient.

This post has been edited by Meat Miracle: 05 August 2012 - 04:45 PM

[Master Emerald]

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Wrong, wrong, wrong. Please read.

http://arstechnica.c...pretty-vista/2/

Many of that benefits were added to the Classic skin (magnifying behind the window, smoother animations, snapping onther windows... hell you can even make the interface on classic scheme transparent with 3rd party programs). And did you know all the symbols used on the ui (minimize, close, maximize etc) were vectors since Windows 95, there's a font that contains all those characters.

And about the small size... they have an option to show larger text and buttons (and I don't use it, even on my 125dpi lcd on desktop).

Anyway,I won't stop using my beloved interface ui <3.

This post has been edited by Master Emerald: 05 August 2012 - 05:10 PM

[Guess Who]

Okay, so you just don't have any clue or understanding about how GDI or DWM work. Good to know.

[Skaarg]

I'm not going to have the time to install the RTM on my desktop for a few days and the VGA out on my laptop doesn't work so I can't test this out yet, but can someone with a dual monitor setup confirm this issue is fixed in the RTM?

http://I.imgur.com/ELEwQ.jpg

I had a flash video playing in full screen on my secondary monitor, while this was playing I was browsing the web on my right monitor. I went to restore the full screen video to it's windowed state so I could check my IRC window, but as you can tell from the screenshot when I went to click the windowed mode button the stupid sidebar thing pops it's ugly face in. Of course I can press escape or something else, but it's just so annoying that I can't use things as their intended because Microsoft had to change everything.

[Irixion]

If I cannot directly boot to desktop and skip the whole Metro nonesense, I'm not even going to take a look at this. Normal people turn their computers off at the end of the day. If I have to tell it to go and open up the desktop (which probably takes some extra time) then what's the point? I want my OS to speed things up not slow me down with an ugly bland interface.

[Hodgy]

I both understand and don't understand the metro hate.

Yes it shoves a tablet interface in your face which is pretty unwanted on a desktop, it uses resources with the apps, but they are managed by qwindows so they don't use too much resources, plus they are easy to close (drag the panel down with the mouse from the top of the screen).

But on the other hand it's not like it hinders performance, and it has all the functionality of the start menu and more!
its just that its full screen instead of using a small area of your screen in the bottom left.

[Elektro-Omega]

Can I just ask, I havn't used Windows 8 yet but I plan on giving it a whirl.

Since it is a leaked Enterprise Version which is the release candidate I'm assuming it has full software support.

I mainly use 3D Studio Max and Adobe programs which would be my main worry. Do they work with Windows 8 as they should?
I'm assuming they do as it is the release version but if someone could clear this up it would be great.

[Oerg866]

It's not the release candidate, it's the final signed off version. There's a Pro leak now aswell.

But keep in mind you can't activate any of them yet. You'll get a nasty watermark telling you to activate windows. I don't really mind that though. Someone will make a haxorz soon anyways (I hope?!)

[Elektro-Omega]

I probably won't mind the watermark and as you said, someone will hax it soon.

Just need to figure out where to obtain it from now, I don't like using torrents.

Edit: Question about software compatability still stands. Does everything work correctly?

This post has been edited by Elektro-Omega: 06 August 2012 - 04:23 AM

[Oerg866]

Of course. Why wouldn't it?

[Elektro-Omega]

Just double checking. I wouldn't want to get Win 8, really like it and then find that all of my stuff doesn't work on it.

[Oerg866]

Interesting XD

[Oerg866]

Irixion, on 06 August 2012 - 02:21 AM, said:

If I cannot directly boot to desktop and skip the whole Metro nonesense, I'm not even going to take a look at this. Normal people turn their computers off at the end of the day. If I have to tell it to go and open up the desktop (which probably takes some extra time) then what's the point? I want my OS to speed things up not slow me down with an ugly bland interface.

Wow, that's borderline retarded. It's not even a quarter of a second. Really. And once it went to the desktop immediatly after boot up, not sure why though. The entire thing is really fast altogether.

[Guess Who]

Oerg866, on 06 August 2012 - 09:32 AM, said:

Interesting XD

Ugh, I always suspected the Metro desktop thing was a rushed last-minute decision, and between the Aero icons and not even replacing the Aero Basic theme, it's waaaaay too obvious.

[Oerg866]

How is it a last minute decision when it was available several months ago in the public releases? You gotta check your facts, dude :P