[HeartAttack]

WHY, after over 20 years of killing him, is Robotnik STILL ALIVE??!?! (Kind of a joke question, but still lol)

Another thing: why does Sonic have to go and re-find the chaos emeralds with every single new adventure? I understand that in Sonic 3 Knuckles punches Sonic and takes the emeralds so it kind of makes sense that you'd have to re-obtain them there - but what about Sonic 2 and every other sequel? It's like Sonic never found any emeralds each time a new sequel comes out. Also - just how the hell did Knuckles injure Sonic in the beginning of Sonic 3 when he jumped out of the ground? It's fucking SUPER SONIC for crying out loud! If anything, Knuckles should have died when he came into contact with Super Sonic! But no...somehow he was able to hit Super Sonic AND snatch the emeralds. lolwut

[FeliciaVal]

HeartAttack, on 13 May 2012 - 02:43 AM, said:

WHY, after over 20 years of killing him, is Robotnik STILL ALIVE??!?! (Kind of a joke question, but still lol)

Another thing: why does Sonic have to go and re-find the chaos emeralds with every single new adventure? I understand that in Sonic 3 Knuckles punches Sonic and takes the emeralds so it kind of makes sense that you'd have to re-obtain them there - but what about Sonic 2 and every other sequel? It's like Sonic never found any emeralds each time a new sequel comes out. Also - just how the hell did Knuckles injure Sonic in the beginning of Sonic 3 when he jumped out of the ground? It's fucking SUPER SONIC for crying out loud! If anything, Knuckles should have died when he came into contact with Super Sonic! But no...somehow he was able to hit Super Sonic AND snatch the emeralds. lolwut

actually, if you complete Sonic 1 with all the chaos emeralds, it shows a small cutscene where Sonic spins the chaos emeralds and then they dissapear in a blink, and leaves Sonic confused as of what happened, probaby the chaos emeralds returned to their original place to balance the world after Robotnik did his thing and then in Sonic 2 you have to retrieve them again because of that, that's my only theory as to why you have to collect the chaos emeralds again. And yeah, I cannot understand how can Knuckles be more powerful than Super Sonic in the S3 intro. My only suggestion is that Sonic had his guard down and wasn't fully using the powers of the emeralds, as I interpret the intro as him playing around with their powers to transform into Super Sonic and race towards Angel Island.
And speaking about Angel Island...if it is a floating island in the sky, how is it possible that it has a beach? When you watch the S3 intro you can clearly see Sonic arriving at a beach, and considering the events of S3, the Master Emerald hasn't been stolen yet by Robotnik so the island should be floating when Sonic arrives...

[Chaos Fusion]

Well, heres my list of things that baffled me
Sonic can defeat Egg fighters with one hit while the werehog requires multiple attacks to kill the same enemy when the werehog is meant to be stronger
Sonic can still see where he's going midair despite spinning at extreme speeds
Charmy is meant to be a bee so why is he almost the size of Cream?
The whole where does Amy store her hammer
and lastly, how Sonic can die from small pits but he can survive dropping from the stratospher(Sa2)

This post has been edited by Chaos Fusion: 13 May 2012 - 04:31 AM

[Strife]

Chaos Fusion, on 13 May 2012 - 04:30 AM, said:

and lastly, how Sonic can die from small pits but he can survive dropping from the stratospher(Sa2)

I think it's mostly a matter of gameplay. Bottomless pits inevitably leave Sonic in a position where it's impossible to get back up, at least in a decent amount of time. So, if Sonic didn't die from bottomless pits, you'd get situations like that notorious spike pit in Mystic Cave Zone every time.

A similar situation in which the gameplay demands Sonic just die for no reason is when 10 minutes pass in the classic games. I think it'd make more sense if he just made an "aww, bummer, Eggman got away and I won't be able to stop him now cause I took too long" pose.

This post has been edited by Strife: 13 May 2012 - 04:40 AM

[SpeedStarTMQ]

FeliciaVal, on 13 May 2012 - 04:28 AM, said:

HeartAttack, on 13 May 2012 - 02:43 AM, said:

WHY, after over 20 years of killing him, is Robotnik STILL ALIVE??!?! (Kind of a joke question, but still lol)

Another thing: why does Sonic have to go and re-find the chaos emeralds with every single new adventure? I understand that in Sonic 3 Knuckles punches Sonic and takes the emeralds so it kind of makes sense that you'd have to re-obtain them there - but what about Sonic 2 and every other sequel? It's like Sonic never found any emeralds each time a new sequel comes out. Also - just how the hell did Knuckles injure Sonic in the beginning of Sonic 3 when he jumped out of the ground? It's fucking SUPER SONIC for crying out loud! If anything, Knuckles should have died when he came into contact with Super Sonic! But no...somehow he was able to hit Super Sonic AND snatch the emeralds. lolwut

actually, if you complete Sonic 1 with all the chaos emeralds, it shows a small cutscene where Sonic spins the chaos emeralds and then they dissapear in a blink, and leaves Sonic confused as of what happened, probaby the chaos emeralds returned to their original place to balance the world after Robotnik did his thing and then in Sonic 2 you have to retrieve them again because of that, that's my only theory as to why you have to collect the chaos emeralds again. And yeah, I cannot understand how can Knuckles be more powerful than Super Sonic in the S3 intro. My only suggestion is that Sonic had his guard down and wasn't fully using the powers of the emeralds, as I interpret the intro as him playing around with their powers to transform into Super Sonic and race towards Angel Island.
And speaking about Angel Island...if it is a floating island in the sky, how is it possible that it has a beach? When you watch the S3 intro you can clearly see Sonic arriving at a beach, and considering the events of S3, the Master Emerald hasn't been stolen yet by Robotnik so the island should be floating when Sonic arrives...

Yeah, after useage, the Chaos Emeralds scatter. In Sonic 1 they were incomplete because the 7th wasn't there, thus when used, they returned the landscape to normal and whisked off. With all 7, Sonic seems to be able to control them and send them off at will, which is why every every game they disappear again. Sonic Rush kinda explains this a bit because Sonic can control the power to stop negative effects, like the world collapsing in to itself when they're near the Sol Emeralds.

From what I can tell, Super Sonic can have the emeralds knocked from his graps when Sonic is caught off guard. He can take the biggest hit to the face from an interdimensional being but he's never surprised like that by them. Knuckles is also very powerful, and Sonic would have been going at such a speed with his guard down.

Lastly, it's explained in the manual that when the Death Egg hit Angel Island, it knocked it down in to the sea. Robotnik tricked Knuckles in to helping him set off again by stealing the Emeralds from Sonic. Eggman would have stolen the Master Emerald from Knuckles anyway and Sonic would have been toast, but it didn't work out like that.

[FeliciaVal]

SpeedStarTMQ, on 13 May 2012 - 04:42 AM, said:

FeliciaVal, on 13 May 2012 - 04:28 AM, said:

HeartAttack, on 13 May 2012 - 02:43 AM, said:

WHY, after over 20 years of killing him, is Robotnik STILL ALIVE??!?! (Kind of a joke question, but still lol)

Another thing: why does Sonic have to go and re-find the chaos emeralds with every single new adventure? I understand that in Sonic 3 Knuckles punches Sonic and takes the emeralds so it kind of makes sense that you'd have to re-obtain them there - but what about Sonic 2 and every other sequel? It's like Sonic never found any emeralds each time a new sequel comes out. Also - just how the hell did Knuckles injure Sonic in the beginning of Sonic 3 when he jumped out of the ground? It's fucking SUPER SONIC for crying out loud! If anything, Knuckles should have died when he came into contact with Super Sonic! But no...somehow he was able to hit Super Sonic AND snatch the emeralds. lolwut

actually, if you complete Sonic 1 with all the chaos emeralds, it shows a small cutscene where Sonic spins the chaos emeralds and then they dissapear in a blink, and leaves Sonic confused as of what happened, probaby the chaos emeralds returned to their original place to balance the world after Robotnik did his thing and then in Sonic 2 you have to retrieve them again because of that, that's my only theory as to why you have to collect the chaos emeralds again. And yeah, I cannot understand how can Knuckles be more powerful than Super Sonic in the S3 intro. My only suggestion is that Sonic had his guard down and wasn't fully using the powers of the emeralds, as I interpret the intro as him playing around with their powers to transform into Super Sonic and race towards Angel Island.
And speaking about Angel Island...if it is a floating island in the sky, how is it possible that it has a beach? When you watch the S3 intro you can clearly see Sonic arriving at a beach, and considering the events of S3, the Master Emerald hasn't been stolen yet by Robotnik so the island should be floating when Sonic arrives...

Yeah, after useage, the Chaos Emeralds scatter. In Sonic 1 they were incomplete because the 7th wasn't there, thus when used, they returned the landscape to normal and whisked off. With all 7, Sonic seems to be able to control them and send them off at will, which is why every every game they disappear again. Sonic Rush kinda explains this a bit because Sonic can control the power to stop negative effects, like the world collapsing in to itself when they're near the Sol Emeralds.

From what I can tell, Super Sonic can have the emeralds knocked from his graps when Sonic is caught off guard. He can take the biggest hit to the face from an interdimensional being but he's never surprised like that by them. Knuckles is also very powerful, and Sonic would have been going at such a speed with his guard down.

Lastly, it's explained in the manual that when the Death Egg hit Angel Island, it knocked it down in to the sea. Robotnik tricked Knuckles in to helping him set off again by stealing the Emeralds from Sonic. Eggman would have stolen the Master Emerald from Knuckles anyway and Sonic would have been toast, but it didn't work out like that.

kinda confusing there, I didn't know about that. I thought the Death Egg hit Angel Island after the events of Sonic 3 (you know, when Sonic destroys Launch Base and you can see the Death Egg falling from the sky, then the small intro of S&K when you can see the Death Egg falling into the Lava Reef volcano). Probably it hit Angel Island twice? Once after Sonic 2 and another once after Sonic 3? Because I really don't know anymore lol

[SpeedStarTMQ]

Nah, the Death Egg was on Angel Island already in Sonic 3, in the Launch Base Zone, being repaired from when it was knocked out the sky in Sonic 2. It then fell back down to Angel Island again (which was already in the ocean as seen in the opening of Sonic and Knuckles). Angel Island only started floating again when the Death Egg was destroyed and the Master Emerald back in the hands of Knuckles.

[FeliciaVal]

ah I see now XD ok then, mystery solved :P

[Sik]

Ayu Tsukimiya, on 13 May 2012 - 12:26 AM, said:

How the fuck do Tails' tails work? Wouldn't his tail bones be broken if he tried to rotate them?

Better question: why don't his tails get tied up?

[The Growler]

Another curious point is in water zones (Labyrinth Act 3 isn't it?), where when you get to a certain point the water level starts rising... but it some areas when you walk back again (which obviously you're not supposed to), the water level drops again!

But of course yet, the same thing doesn't happen with the rising lava in HTZ Act 2, or when you fill the place with sand in Sandopolis Zone. I can't remember if the same thing happened in Chemical Plant Zone Act 2 or not now, but I don't think so.

[Sofox]

Falk, on 12 May 2012 - 08:14 PM, said:

It's one thing to not make sense; It's yet another entirely to be impractical.

I SAW SOMETHING LIKE THAT IN... wait.. no, it was a Gorrilaz music video.

gold lightning, on 12 May 2012 - 10:20 PM, said:

There has been only one thing over the years that has really made me scratch my head.
Why the hell can Sonic survive in the vacuum of space with no oxygen for as long as he wants to while he cannot withstand 30 or more seconds underwater?

You're not the first to notice that.

FeliciaVal, on 13 May 2012 - 04:28 AM, said:

And speaking about Angel Island...if it is a floating island in the sky, how is it possible that it has a beach? When you watch the S3 intro you can clearly see Sonic arriving at a beach, and considering the events of S3, the Master Emerald hasn't been stolen yet by Robotnik so the island should be floating when Sonic arrives...

Kinda been explained already how the impact of the Death Egg caused the Island to fall into the sea. After Sonic's story, the island is restored to the skies as seen in a cutscene. Then Knuckles' story takes place which, and the end of it, you can see the island still in the sky, just very wobbly. Doesn't quite explain why the edges of the island are sandy if they're not usually by the sea though...

[ultima espio]

The one that really gets me, is why Knuckles moved the Emerald out of the Hidden Palace, and into a wide open area. I mean, isn't that making it more open to attack?

Then about the Super Emeralds, if that's what they were like originally as Adventure implied, then how did they lose their energy? Through Chaos? But then, when Sonic restored them in S3K, how did they get scattered again and return to being regular emeralds?

[The Fralin Boy]

Why doesn't anyone ever mention the alien invasion after Shadow the Hedgehog? Did everyone just forget aliens killing thousands of people and attempting to eat them?

And for that matter, what happened to the fucking moon after SA2? The moon is always seen full again and the moon is still intact in the Shadow boss fight in Generations, which was a tribute to SA2

This post has been edited by The Fralin Boy: 13 May 2012 - 04:13 PM

[Vaiyt]

GT Koopa, on 13 May 2012 - 12:46 AM, said:

For that matter, moving left and right in the air when you jump is technically IMPOSSIBLE.

Yet, Miyamoto realised over 20 years ago that it was necessary. To see the difference that it makes, play Super Mario, then play Castlevania or Ghouls n' Ghosts. The latter have a "realistic" jump, which sucks big time and makes the game much more difficult than it should.

The Fralin Boy, on 13 May 2012 - 04:07 PM, said:

Why doesn't anyone ever mention the alien invasion after Shadow the Hedgehog? Did everyone just forget aliens killing thousands of people and attempting to eat them?

Maybe because both Sonic Team and the characters themselves are trying to forget that god awful game ever existed?

This post has been edited by Vaiyt: 13 May 2012 - 04:17 PM

[SpeedStarTMQ]

Yeah that's the most annoying thing. Just a mention of the aliens that froze millions of people on earth and crushed people in their cars and ushered in a new world order with GUN lessening it's military prescence in it's aftermath would be nice. Even if it wasn't the best game in the world.