[Aerosol]

doc eggfan, on 01 May 2012 - 09:53 PM, said:

I find the Law of Fives 41:26 to be more and more manifest the harder I look. - Lord Omar Khayyam Ravenhurst

Calendar Theory:
The year 4126 in the hebrew calendar straddles both 365 and 366 AD, which is the same as the number of days in the calender year and leap year, and each year is comprised of 7 day weeks which is the same as the number of chaos emeralds.

These two facts aren't exactly related though. I highly doubt that they picked 7 emeralds for 7 days in the week. And even if they did, I don't think 4126 would be such an obfuscated reference.

[Overlord]

Does any high-up at Sega (or involved with Sonic 2) have the 2nd of June 1941 as a birthdate? That'd be the only logical way it'd work as a date, but seeing as it doesn't have 19 on the front (when all the others do) leads me to think that sadly the Bible reference is probably more likely. Probably snuck in by one of the US devs.

[steveswede]

Overlord, on 02 May 2012 - 02:02 PM, said:

Does any high-up at Sega (or involved with Sonic 2) have the 2nd of June 1941 as a birthdate?

Remember, us UK folk do the dates the other way around to people in America so it could be 6th of February 1941

[egel]

Hey all. Since super sonic is inspired/based on a super saiyan, I thought it may had something to do with season/episode listing of the dragonball z saga (e.g. episode 41, season 2, 6 minutes into the episode). Looked it up, nothing interesting. Something tells me it is a reference to a date of importance however.

[Overlord]

steveswede, on 02 May 2012 - 02:08 PM, said:

Overlord, on 02 May 2012 - 02:02 PM, said:

Does any high-up at Sega (or involved with Sonic 2) have the 2nd of June 1941 as a birthdate?

Remember, us UK folk do the dates the other way around to people in America so it could be 6th of February 1941

I thought about this, but discounted it. If the year is the first part of it, it will be YYMMDD - North America uses MMDDYY, the rest of the world that doesn't use the aforementioned ISO format uses DDMMYY. If it was a US birthday, the code would be 2641, not 4126.

[ICEknight]

egel, on 02 May 2012 - 02:23 PM, said:

Hey all. Since super sonic is inspired/based on a super saiyan, I thought it may had something to do with season/episode listing of the dragonball z saga (e.g. episode 41, season 2, 6 minutes into the episode). Looked it up, nothing interesting. Something tells me it is a reference to a date of importance however.

I don't think there was such thing as "seasons" in Dragon Ball's original run... or anywhere outside the US.

[Sik]

Overlord, on 02 May 2012 - 02:25 PM, said:

steveswede, on 02 May 2012 - 02:08 PM, said:

Overlord, on 02 May 2012 - 02:02 PM, said:

Does any high-up at Sega (or involved with Sonic 2) have the 2nd of June 1941 as a birthdate?

Remember, us UK folk do the dates the other way around to people in America so it could be 6th of February 1941

I thought about this, but discounted it. If the year is the first part of it, it will be YYMMDD - North America uses MMDDYY, the rest of the world that doesn't use the aforementioned ISO format uses DDMMYY. If it was a US birthday, the code would be 2641, not 4126.

Then again, we're going by the assumption it was a birthdate... Though some of Sega's executives of that time seem to have been born around that date, so I wouldn't entirely discard it yet.

[Mercury]

I'm leaning against it being a date, though, since both other date codes included the year in the full 4-digit format.

Spitballing other possibilities:

• Some Sega-related model number, say for the Genesis or some piece if internal hardware.
  
• An address, for instance the STI building in Palo Alto.
  
• Something to do with Yuji's Porsche.

[steveswede]

Dammit ninja'd

I was going to say address of a specific building.

[Endri]

Mercury, on 02 May 2012 - 05:55 PM, said:

I'm leaning against it being a date, though, since both other date codes included the year in the full 4-digit format.

Not at all. The '14 Continues' code 1124, which happens to be the 19921124 code, omits the year 1992. But yeah, I'm leaning against it being a date as well. Because—if it indeed was a date—then it would more likely follow the '14 Continues' code format at the very least.

[Knucklez]

Super Sonic and the 7 Chaos Emeralds are inspired/based on the Super Saiyan and the 7 Dragon Balls from Dragonball Z.. which would explain why Sonic 1 had only 6 emeralds and no super transformation, but Sonic 2 introduced it along with a 7th chaos emerald.

Not to mention Super Sonic has spiked up golden spines, just like a Super Saiyan has spiked up golden hair.

[Endri]

Knucklez, on 04 May 2012 - 05:44 PM, said:

Super Sonic and the 7 Chaos Emeralds are inspired/based on the Super Saiyan and the 7 Dragon Balls from Dragonball Z.. which would explain why Sonic 1 had only 6 emeralds and no super transformation, but Sonic 2 introduced it along with a 7th chaos emerald.

Not to mention Super Sonic has spiked up golden spines, just like a Super Saiyan has spiked up golden hair.

... And...?

You are missing the point here: we are not denying the fact that Super Sonic/7 Chaos Emeralds were inspired by Dragon Ball Z; we are discussing the origin and meaning of the Super Sonic cheat code.

[TheInvisibleSun]

Endri, on 04 May 2012 - 05:22 PM, said:

Mercury, on 02 May 2012 - 05:55 PM, said:

I'm leaning against it being a date, though, since both other date codes included the year in the full 4-digit format.

Not at all. The '14 Continues' code 1124, which happens to be the 19921124 code, omits the year 1992. But yeah, I'm leaning against it being a date as well. Because—if it indeed was a date—then it would more likely follow the '14 Continues' code format at the very least.

The problem with this though, is that 4126 doesn't form a calendar month/day...

To try to spark a new idea, does anyone think it might have to do with the tracks played on those? Just a shot in the dark I guess.

EDIT:

Oil Ocean, 2-Player Results Screen, Emerald Hill and Hill Top (if I remember correctly). This ring any bells for anybody?

This post has been edited by TheInvisibleSun: 04 May 2012 - 07:43 PM

[Espyo]

I'm glad this thing didn't go to the SToOK, on one hand. I love all the little theories we have going on here.
Let me pitch a few.

• What if it's not something about the past, like the Bible or WWII, but rather something for the future? Sonic 4 Episode 1, stage 2... something 6.
  
• 4126 in hex is 101E. Anything juicy in the asm or RAM?

[Iceguy]

TheInvisibleSun, on 04 May 2012 - 07:31 PM, said:

Oil Ocean, 2-Player Results Screen, Emerald Hill and Hill Top (if I remember correctly). This ring any bells for anybody?

Emerald Hill and Hill Top are related, at least when it comes to the level art.
It's also possible to gather all Emeralds in Emerald Hill... is that why they call it Emerald Hill? owo; Could that be related?

-tilts head- I can't find any other connection. o-o

This post has been edited by Iceguy: 05 May 2012 - 10:45 AM