[Dissident93]

Most of this stuff has already been posted by me on various posts here, but ICEknight requested to put them all in one topic, so that's what I did.

Howard Drossin - I asked him "Hey I'm just wondering if you had any luck finding those unused Sonic MIDIs you said you might have had." he said....

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"No not yet, haven't had time"

Tokuhiko Uwabo - I asked him "Do you know what you wrote for Sonic the Hedgehog 3?"

He responded with...

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"Unfortunately I just assigned our staff and contracted composer, haven't done any compose work."

Then...

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"Interms sonic , I was managing position for the sound development of the project.
You can check waht I have done actually.

Just after one or two years later when I had interview and decided their joining,
I moved to London development office. therefore I'm not sure what they did.

Regards.
BO"

Masaru Setsumaru - I asked him "Also, would you be more comfortable responding in Japanese? It seems like you can read English fine. What do you want to do?
And, it seems like you composed the Final Boss theme for Sonic 3D. What else did you compose for the Sonic series? I know that you created the sound driver, along with Yoshiaki Kashima."

He responded with...

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"Hmmmm... I wonder what you know very well.
Exactly, I wrote final boss theme of Sonic3D. And coded a sound driver for GENESIS.
When making Sonic3, Sonic&Knuckles, Sonic3D,and the other GENESIS games, I made a SoundFX and coded a sound driver. Sometimes wrote a music."

I then said "I am a big fan! =D
And I heard from Howard Drossin, that it was you who did arrangements of his MIDIs. Is this true too?"

He responded with...

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"What!? Do you know Mr.Drossin!?
Yes, It's true. He make a theme music of Sonic&Knuckles, I arranged for GENESIS.
I had a good day about 17 years ago."

Jun Senoue - I don't have exactly what he said anymore, but he told me that he is a producer for Sonic related CDs for Wave Master, and that's when I asked him to try and do a Sonic 3 cd and he said No, sorry..

Cirocco Jones - I asked him to clear up on the Levels 2 & 3 credits that his website lists him doing, and he told me...

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"5 guys (me, Brad, Bobby, Darry, Geoff) spent what seemed like countless hours creating compositions with MJ... and then trying our best to technically balance what SEGA team wanted to create music for the sonic game. I was hired by Brad to come in to create different music cues and arrange on a lot of other ideas too. It was a long time ago... and was kinda challenging to say the least."

After a long while getting nothing back, I gave him another message, telling him I don't care about the MJ tabloid crap others would, and I just wanna credit artists for their work. He then told me...

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"I believe that there is a lawsuit going on or about to go on. Sega owes a lot of people money from the Sonic stuff. Speak with Bobby Brooks. He may tell you a LOT more about everything....."

Bobby Brooks - I told him Cirocco sent me to him, and if he was willing to answer a few questions. I was told...

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"what do u want? from me ? why do u want to know?
you can contact my lawyer
first off I don't know who u are or what you really want you don't have anything to do with my personal biz so why would I just give info to a stranger while im in the middle of some legal shit . tis is my personal biz so if you don't mind quit asking me about my biz"

PS: I apologize for the post being a bit sloppy, but it gets the job done.

This post has been edited by Dissident93: 11 February 2012 - 11:55 PM

[ICEknight]

You rule, thanks for making this very informative topic.

If you guys can contribute any more quotes (I know Jun Senoue has also been contacted before regarding Sonic 3, perhaps by LOst?), please post away.

This post has been edited by ICEknight: 12 February 2012 - 12:08 AM

[Aerosol]

Bobby Brooks ain't a man to fuck wit, it seems. I wonder what's going on that's got him so on edge. Or maybe he's always like that.

[Dissident93]

I can go around and compile a list of other previous Sonic 3 music info/links and put them in this thread, if you'd like.

This post has been edited by Dissident93: 12 February 2012 - 01:26 AM

[ICEknight]

I'm sure everyone here would love to, as long as there's no info that would allow random people to get in contact with them.

[Lanzer]

I would go back to Cirocco and copy/paste the message Bobby sent you.

Bobby Brooks Reminds me of one of us on a bad day. Jeez wonder what this lawsuit is all about to get him soo on edge.

[Shadix]

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Howard Drossin - I asked him "Hey I'm just wondering if you had any luck finding those unused Sonic MIDIs you said you might have had." he said....

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"No not yet, haven't had time"

I believe in another topic it was settled to not harass him about this anymore. >_>

Interesting that Setsumaru has no idea whats up. He was the guy I was sure was going to have the answer to this, as with his role it would seem as if he's the one that would've picked which songs were actually on the cart. Part of the problem with the other people you talked to is we have no way of confirming if what they composed actually made it into the game. Cirocco's story in particular is fishy.

I personally think going door to door harassing these guys is inappropriate considering the circumstances. The people with the answers are going to be the people that were in charge of putting the music in the game at the time, and given that this game was more than 15 years ago now and how we haven't gotten a straight answer I don't think we ever will. Let these people live their lives.

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I'm sure everyone here would love to, as long as there's no info that would allow random people to get in contact with them.

It doesn't take a genius to do a Facebook search.

This post has been edited by Shadix: 12 February 2012 - 03:07 AM

[Guess Who]

Lanzer, on 12 February 2012 - 01:49 AM, said:

Bobby Brooks Reminds me of one of us on a bad day. Jeez wonder what this lawsuit is all about to get him soo on edge.

Well, judging from what Cirocco said, sounds like it could be about Sonic 3.

[HarroSIN]

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"what do u want? from me ? why do u want to know?
you can contact my lawyer
first off I don't know who u are or what you really want you don't have anything to do with my personal biz so why would I just give info to a stranger while im in the middle of some legal shit . tis is my personal biz so if you don't mind quit asking me about my biz"

It's like you're interrogating this poor man. "I told him Cirocco sent me to him..." sounds like the precursor to a mob hit or something.

This post has been edited by HarroSIN: 12 February 2012 - 02:55 AM

[Hero Chao]

Shadix is right. It doesn't take a genius to do a Facebook search. That's why they don't.

No offense, but it's true, it was decided a while ago that this sort of interrogation was no longer to be acceptable. We've had far too many people attempting this multiple times to the disdain of Sonic Retro as a site. So again, I will state it. DO. NOT. DO THIS.

It does not get the job done, it makes you look like you're out on a witchhunt. Howard Drossin has personally gotten defensive over the issue of being sought out and put on the spot for information like this.

[OKei]

You brought some good content here to share, but I also agree that your approach to these people could have at least been more delicate, Dissident93.

While Brooks did seem quite anxious in his reply (you were just a random guy, e-mailing him from out of nowhere), at this point it really does seem to look like you're snooping on these people and their affairs. I think enough contact has been done.

[Dissident93]

OK, I'm sorry...

But this was my personal decision to ask these guys, I just happened to share what I've learned with everybody.

And I asked Howard that question last year. That was the only thing I asked him, anyway.

@Lanzer: I basically did do that, and he didn't respond back. I guess I'm learning that I may never get info from these guys, and I feel kind of bad for bothering them. I'll stop if that's what you guys want. But does this mean if I happen to get info from them in the future, to not share it here?

[Hero Chao]

Dissident93, on 12 February 2012 - 03:23 AM, said:

OK, I'm sorry...

But this was my personal decision to ask these guys, I just happened to share what I've learned with everybody.

And I asked Howard that question last year. That was the only thing I asked him, anyway.

@Lanzer: I basically did do that, and he didn't respond back. I guess I'm learning that I may never get info from these guys, and I feel kind of bad for bothering them. I'll stop if that's what you guys want. But does this mean if I happen to get info from them in the future, to not share it here?

Just because it was your "personal decision" doesn't mean it's smart in any way, shape or form. We have all the info that we need, and if we have any further questions in the future, we will respect those people and their time who have the information and set up proper interviews with them that do not violate their privacy and personal time on such mediums as Facebook.

As such, I would highly suggest that you cease any further like attempts to glean obscure information from these people. If you continue to do so despite what could be referred to as common sense, then take your information elsewhere.

[Dissident93]

Ok, I understand. I'll stop the contact.

[Hero Chao]

Dissident93, on 12 February 2012 - 03:34 AM, said:

Ok, I understand. I'll stop the contact.

Thank you very much.