[Meat Miracle]

LOst, on 29 November 2011 - 12:45 PM, said:

The music in the 510 build in CD quality is worth extremely much, as it is unedited. Unedited = no fading out, no cheap loop edits, and of course the full special stage music!

It's been a long time since I last checked, but I recall that the 712 (which we have a bin/cue of) also has no fade outs, and the full special stage music is just a "cheap loop edit".

[Sodaholic]

This might sound kinda dumb, but I wonder if Sega themselves may be willing to release a bin/cue dump of it? After all, it's just a barely playable prototype, they wouldn't have much to lose by releasing it, especially considering that it's already out, but in inferior form.

[Billy]

That's assuming Sega even still has that particular proto. Even then, I doubt anyone working at sega would know or care enough. They probably would have a reason to not release it anyway, since a port of Sonic CD is coming out.

This post has been edited by Billy: 02 December 2011 - 02:41 PM

[Hendricks 266]

Perhaps we could network around on, say, ASSEMblergames to find the buyer?

[Metal Man88]

Sodaholic, on 02 December 2011 - 02:34 PM, said:

This might sound kinda dumb, but I wonder if Sega themselves may be willing to release a bin/cue dump of it? After all, it's just a barely playable prototype, they wouldn't have much to lose by releasing it, especially considering that it's already out, but in inferior form.

Last I heard, SEGA threw out their old prototypes (and that was sorta how we wound up with all the QA disks drx released a while ago)

[drx]

Hendricks 266, on 02 December 2011 - 06:46 PM, said:

Perhaps we could network around on, say, ASSEMblergames to find the buyer?

If the proto was available so easily, I would have found it by now.

If it's still around, it'll surface one day, with or without intervention.

[Hendricks 266]

I guess that's that. Thanks for sharing the info and for doing the hard work.

[SegaLoco]

drx, on 02 December 2011 - 10:52 AM, said:

I researched 510 history back when I was researching every single Sonic proto out there (I even found 920 and got it dumped in BIN/CUE), and I have bad news for you.

The original 510 was sold on eBay to some guy in Brazil many years ago (I want to say about ten years, but I'm not sure). The way it was released is, a fella named "profund darkness" contacted the then buyer and got a CD-R copy of the iso/mp3 dump from him which he then uploaded to the internet.

I was not able to find the then buyer and I'm unaware if the prototype has changed hands since.

Ah, yeah, the very same guy contacted me on ASSEMbler a while back when I was doing research into the 510's history for my disassembly. He said the reason he got an ISO/MP3 rip was because, at the time, he had to have the rip sent over the net rather than get a physical copy made by the guy, so for the sake of space he had him send all three protos in ISO/MP3, those are where the very first rips of the games came from iirc, then Pachuka came along with his 712 and 920 and then drx dumped his 920 on darkwater or w/e. And then there is the preview/demo build in the massive proto library Sega trashed, those are the only four dumped betas that I know of and their histories thereof. There were some shenanigans at ASSEMbler concerning some beta or something but I never found out where that went nor do I know if it's something that should be brought up.