[W.A.C.]

Not having a level select sucks. Sure, there's a time attack mode, but I only get one life and no ability to choose Tails. :| I'm not going to lie, this port is a big letdown. I was hoping this port would resolve a lot of flaws and stupid oddities from the original game, but it didn't other than allow me to use a spindash that doesn't suck and loop the music. Here are a list of things that should've been implemented.

-Allow me to disable the time limit. I get time over'd constantly in this game while trying to search for things.
-Give me a good level select.
-Allow playing as Tails to at least give you some kind of reward. I can understand why some achievements are disabled for Tails, but I can't have any of the extras unlocked from playing as him and I can't unlock a single achievement with him. The fact I can't even play as him in the time attack is also pretty irritating since I don't get a level select.
-Cleaner picture options. I don't understand why my emulator games should look sharper than this game. Nostalgia doesn't look bad, but playing Sonic CD on an emulator gives me a sharper picture.
-Customizable controls? Not everyone uses 360 emulation for their controllers.

I don't understand why none of these things were implemented. It doesn't seem I'm asking much to have these things implemented. I know I mentioned some of this in the past, but it really frustrated me just now when I wanted to play a certain level as Tails but couldn't so I felt like ranting.

Edit-

Is this game goddamn serious? There isn't time travel in time attack mode? Really? You know what would have been awesome? If you could unlock the ability to play any damn level starting at any time period. That would've been awesome.

This post has been edited by W.A.C.: 21 February 2012 - 04:55 AM

[LordOfSquad]

W.A.C., on 21 February 2012 - 04:47 AM, said:

Is this game goddamn serious? There isn't time travel in time attack mode? Really? You know what would have been awesome? If you could unlock the ability to play any damn level starting at any time period. That would've been awesome.

But that IS in the game. But unfortunately for you, you need to play the time attack mode to get to it. Bit of a sad twist of fate, there.

[ICEknight]

W.A.C., on 21 February 2012 - 04:47 AM, said:

-Allow playing as Tails to at least give you some kind of reward. I can understand why some achievements are disabled for Tails, but I can't have any of the extras unlocked from playing as him and I can't unlock a single achievement with him.

...But Tails is the reward.

This post has been edited by ICEknight: 21 February 2012 - 05:07 AM

[The Taxman]

W.A.C., on 21 February 2012 - 04:47 AM, said:

Not having a level select sucks. Sure, there's a time attack mode, but I only get one life and no ability to choose Tails. :| I'm not going to lie, this port is a big letdown. I was hoping this port would resolve a lot of flaws and stupid oddities from the original game, but it didn't other than allow me to use a spindash that doesn't suck and loop the music. Here are a list of things that should've been implemented.

-Allow me to disable the time limit. I get time over'd constantly in this game while trying to search for things.
-Give me a good level select.
-Allow playing as Tails to at least give you some kind of reward. I can understand why some achievements are disabled for Tails, but I can't have any of the extras unlocked from playing as him and I can't unlock a single achievement with him. The fact I can't even play as him in the time attack is also pretty irritating since I don't get a level select.
-Cleaner picture options. I don't understand why my emulator games should look sharper than this game. Nostalgia doesn't look bad, but playing Sonic CD on an emulator gives me a sharper picture.
-Customizable controls? Not everyone uses 360 emulation for their controllers.

I don't understand why none of these things were implemented. It doesn't seem I'm asking much to have these things implemented. I know I mentioned some of this in the past, but it really frustrated me just now when I wanted to play a certain level as Tails but couldn't so I felt like ranting.

Edit-

Is this game goddamn serious? There isn't time travel in time attack mode? Really? You know what would have been awesome? If you could unlock the ability to play any damn level starting at any time period. That would've been awesome.

Firstly, there is a Stage Select. You need to get a best total time for the special stages in Time Attack mode that is under 5 minutes (I think 5). Then Stage Select will be in the extras menu. You can select any stage and timezone from there.

Secondly, time travel was never in time attack mode. The idea is that the focus is on completing the level in a single run through as fast as possible. Running fast would be interrupted by dodging the Future and Past posts.

Lastly, I assume you're talking about the Steam version. I wasn't working on that SKU and so I had no control over the video filtering, keyboard customization etc. The Steam version was a port of the XBLA port. My own 'native' PC version of the Retro-Engine has these things implemented (as shown below) but understand this is a project I was contracted for and therefore it's not my place to break chain of command.

[W.A.C.]

The Taxman, on 21 February 2012 - 05:24 AM, said:

Firstly, there is a Stage Select. You need to get a best total time for the special stages in Time Attack mode that is under 5 minutes (I think 5). Then Stage Select will be in the extras menu. You can select any stage and timezone from there.

Oh... Can I select Tails in the stage select?

The Taxman, on 21 February 2012 - 05:24 AM, said:

Secondly, time travel was never in time attack mode. The idea is that the focus is on completing the level in a single run through as fast as possible. Running fast would be interrupted by dodging the Future and Past posts.

The main reason it bothered me was the fact I thought there wasn't a stage select.

The Taxman, on 21 February 2012 - 05:24 AM, said:

Lastly, I assume you're talking about the Steam version. I wasn't working on that SKU and so I had no control over the video filtering, keyboard customization etc. The Steam version was a port of the XBLA port. My own 'native' PC version of the Retro-Engine has these things implemented (as shown below) but understand this is a project I was contracted for and therefore it's not my place to break chain of command.

Oh my god, that looks so much cleaner. Why the hell didn't SEGA just implement the stuff you already did? :/

Edit-

I can't seem to find the special stages in time attack mode...

This post has been edited by W.A.C.: 21 February 2012 - 06:48 AM

[JaxTH]

W.A.C., on 21 February 2012 - 06:41 AM, said:

I can't seem to find the special stages in time attack mode...

You have to get a certain time in Time Attack on the regular stages. After that there will be an arrow going down I believe. Press down and then do the special stages in under a certain time and Stage select is yours.

[Dark Sonic]

Lovely decision over at Sega to port the 360 version to the PC.

"We need a PC version."

"Can we use the one we have?"

"Nope just port the 360 version."

Same logic helped make SADX Steam come into existence. It's a port of a port of a port.

[W.A.C.]

So I just unlocked the stage select and can't select Tails...why?

[The Taxman]

There's two ways to get Tails in the stage select:
- Select a Tails game in the save menu, then exit out to the main menu (the stage select uses the currently selected player)
- Go to the Sound Test and Play PCM 32, DA 8. After the Desert Dazzle screen you'll be taken to the stage select with the player set to Tails.

[HEDGESMFG]

So I hate to continuously nag about this, but is there ANY sign of a patch coming soon? Do you still even have permission to do one, or is the release just kind of... done?

Fixing some of the time travel glitches (like the now unusable conveyor-belt hopping trick in QQ), or the fact that you seem to lose your time travel stream a bit easier than running off an edge (it's hard for me to pinpoint exactly where though) would be most helpful.

Plus, I still can't see why there's no way to modify the pause options menu to let you switch soundtracks during the game. It seems like it'd be a simple feature to add in. It's no customizable soundtrack feature, I understand, but it'd be the easiest compromise I can think of. Please correct me if I'm wrong, of course!

[Master Emerald]

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or the fact that you seem to lose your time travel stream a bit easier than running off an edge (it's hard for me to pinpoint exactly where though) would be most helpful.

That was demonstrated on collision chaos by a member! I don't remember whom!

[Aesculapius Piranha]

PC gamers get screwed again. That's a surprise.

[Elratauru]

Dark Sonic, on 21 February 2012 - 07:18 AM, said:

Lovely decision over at Sega to port the 360 version to the PC.

"We need a PC version."

"Can we use the one we have?"

"Nope just port the 360 version."

Same logic helped make SADX Steam come into existence. It's a port of a port of a port.

Actually, its a port (to PC) of a port (From 360) of a port (from PC) of a port (from Gamecube) of a port (from Dreamcast, because SADX is not that different)
But yeah, I just don't get SEGA's logic. Would not be easier and cheaper just to use the PC version already done?

Aside that, Taxman, is there any hope of getting a patch or pretty much everything lays on SEGA's (Or the porter's) hands right now? Because I'd be a shame not to get the "best" version or at least a proper one with the most important stuff to me, at least filtering and control fixes D:

Edit;Typo.

This post has been edited by Elratauru: 23 February 2012 - 10:15 PM

[The Taxman]

Elratauru, on 23 February 2012 - 07:08 PM, said:

Dark Sonic, on 21 February 2012 - 07:18 AM, said:

Lovely decision over at Sega to port the 360 version to the PC.

"We need a PC version."

"Can we use the one we have?"

"Nope just port the 360 version."

Same logic helped make SADX Steam come into existence. It's a port of a port of a port.

Actually, its a port (to PC) of a port (From 360) of a port (from PC) of a port (from Gamecube) of a port (from Dreamcast, because SADX is not that different)
But yeah, I just don't get SEGA's logic. Would not be easier and cheaper just to use the PC version already done?

Aside that, Taxman, there is any hope of getting a patch or pretty much everything lays on SEGA's (Or the porter's) hands right now? Because I'd be a shame not to get the "best" version or at least a proper one with the most important stuff to me, at least filtering and control fixes D:

Hmm, it's difficult for me to talk about. The best I can give you right now is that the Windows Phone 7 version incorporates the fixes I've been working on and this should hopefully apply to the other mobile versions too.

[JaxTH]

When did the the WP7 version come out anyway?