[Blue Blood]

I don't get why anyone's saying that Episode 3 might not happen. There was never any official confirmation of a third episode, and Iizuka is obviously just not confirming it early. They've constantly avoided mentioning how many episode there'll be in total.

This post has been edited by Blue Blood: 23 August 2011 - 11:54 PM

[Tito.]

The question is... will Episode II be the game Episode I was trying to be? Or will it be the game Episode I should have been, omitting its obvious flaws?

Blue Blood, on 23 August 2011 - 11:50 PM, said:

I don't get why anyone's saying that Episode 3 might not happen. There was never any official confirmation of a third episode, and Iizuka is obviously just not confirming it early. They've constantly avoided mentioning how many episode there'll be in total.

It was confirmed that there would be three episodes when the game was first announced.

This post has been edited by Tito.: 24 August 2011 - 12:08 AM

[SteelBrush]

I just didn't enjoy S4E1. It was a badly designed game, you can't escape that. The level design was bad, the art direction was bad, the music was bad and it was even marketed badly, it was just bad. Usually I find some enjoyment in awful Sonic games but in Sonic 4 there was nothing. I don't expect much more for episode 2. If only Dimps could refind the mentality that lead them to create Advance series.

[OSM]

Expect the exact same shit with polished physics, maybe.

Unless they completely re-hauled the idea of Sonic 4 there is nothing for me to get excited about.

[JaxTH]

Tito., on 24 August 2011 - 12:06 AM, said:

It was confirmed that there would be three episodes when the game was first announced.

Source?

Everyone knew there would be at least two episodes because episodic obviously.

[Tito.]

JaxTH, on 24 August 2011 - 12:33 AM, said:

Tito., on 24 August 2011 - 12:06 AM, said:

It was confirmed that there would be three episodes when the game was first announced.

Source?

Everyone knew there would be at least two episodes because episodic obviously.

http://www.sonicstad...-special-stage/

Quote

“Sonic 4 will be split into three episodes, each containing four zones of three acts (and a boss) apiece.”

Look above where it says "MOBIUS STRIPS" in big blue letters.

[Titan]

Wow, this just pretty much confirms there was little to no forward planning with Sonic 4. This is pretty pathetic, Sega.

[GeneHF]

To be fair, while mainstream reception of the game was for the most part positive, their target audience (you all) did nothing but bitch about the game.

So, rather than waste time trying to improve this game, they (wisely) spent all resources on making sure Sonic Generations was a gold-star quality title, refining what so far they know has worked for the franchise on both sides of the spectrum. Will it be perfect? Probably not. But that's a standard that, as much as people want to hold Sonic Team to, can't be achieved just yet. But they've certainly been doing their homework, much to Iizuka's displeasure (because yes, he actually does have to do work instead of be a rock star like other producers in the industry.)

Episode 2 has been on the back burner this whole time and was allegedly close to getting a full axe. In my opinion, they're not talking about an Episode 3 because they're banking on how Generations' 2D is received before they go forward with Episode 2, then see with whatever refinements it's given there how it's received by the general populous and you all before an Episode 3 is considered.

It's simple business. Don't plan out a sequel until you know if it's worth the effort. Despite all the crap the older fans gave it, Sonic 4 did sell pretty well across the platforms, so an Episode 2 is only logical. And naturally, it's obvious you all will criticize it with a fine-toothed comb. Whether that's a good thing or not is in the eye of the beholder.

[Blue Blood]

Tito., on 24 August 2011 - 12:39 AM, said:

JaxTH, on 24 August 2011 - 12:33 AM, said:

Tito., on 24 August 2011 - 12:06 AM, said:

It was confirmed that there would be three episodes when the game was first announced.

Source?

Everyone knew there would be at least two episodes because episodic obviously.

http://www.sonicstad...-special-stage/

Quote

“Sonic 4 will be split into three episodes, each containing four zones of three acts (and a boss) apiece.”

*scan*
Look above where it says "MOBIUS STRIPS" in big blue letters.

Whereas other sources specially said that they were not going to disclose how many episodes there's going to be. There were a few mentions of three or four episodes planned, but they have all been isolated accounts. Any interviews have always said "wait and see".

[RAMPKORV]

They should have scrapped it already before the release of the first episode ...

[Tito.]

Blue Blood, on 24 August 2011 - 01:05 AM, said:

Tito., on 24 August 2011 - 12:39 AM, said:

JaxTH, on 24 August 2011 - 12:33 AM, said:

Tito., on 24 August 2011 - 12:06 AM, said:

It was confirmed that there would be three episodes when the game was first announced.

Source?

Everyone knew there would be at least two episodes because episodic obviously.

http://www.sonicstad...-special-stage/

Quote

“Sonic 4 will be split into three episodes, each containing four zones of three acts (and a boss) apiece.”

*scan*
Look above where it says "MOBIUS STRIPS" in big blue letters.

Whereas other sources specially said that they were not going to disclose how many episodes there's going to be. There were a few mentions of three or four episodes planned, but they have all been isolated accounts. Any interviews have always said "wait and see".

I've actually never heard anyone say it wasn't going to be three episodes or even allude to it not being three episodes until this thread sprouted up. The link I gave you can also be found on the Sonic 4 page on Retro's wiki.

[lennaldo]

I liked Sonic 4, not only did I enjoy playing the first playthrough but I came back to it again and again to get higher on splash hill act 3's time attack leader board. I will agree that maybe the physics weren't quite up to what I had hoped but all in all I thought the game was good, I even liked the music. All that having been said, I don't think it felt in the slightest bit like a sequel to s3&k.
I'm pleased they are making another as I felt a bit shortchanged, in terms of legnth by episode 1 and hope that episode 2 will have a little more of a story. I,ll not be happy if I have to get all the emeralds again with out any explanation as to why.

My biggest fear is that not enough effort will be put into episode 2, that it'll just be episode 1 with different level designs, that would be pretty poor, but I'd not put it past them with the game only costing £10. Also I hope they don't bother with an episode 3, I feel like they need a second episode to finsh properly but I don't want a long drawn out series of games that not that many fans seem to like.

This post has been edited by lennaldo: 24 August 2011 - 09:09 AM

[TheKazeblade]

GeneHF, on 24 August 2011 - 01:03 AM, said:

Episode 2 has been on the back burner this whole time and was allegedly close to getting a full axe.

Really? This is the first I've heard of it being in danger. I guess it could have easily been assumed with how much of a finer product Generations has turned out to be, but when was this mentioned?

[Solid SOAP]

If they expand the amount of zones to at least 5 or 6 with all new zone tropes and bosses then we'll talk, I can't find myself getting too excited for another rehashfest with shitty music. With word of Episode II getting a higher budget, one can hope for a long title with better visuals and music, although I'm not counting on it. I honestly enjoyed Episode I; it wasn't great, it was too short and not particularly memorable, but the levels design was good and it had good pacing.

[GeneHF]

TheKazeblade, on 24 August 2011 - 10:57 AM, said:

GeneHF, on 24 August 2011 - 01:03 AM, said:

Episode 2 has been on the back burner this whole time and was allegedly close to getting a full axe.

Really? This is the first I've heard of it being in danger. I guess it could have easily been assumed with how much of a finer product Generations has turned out to be, but when was this mentioned?

Mostly internal rumblings. The game until very recently hasn't even been in development. Obviously, now as Generations is winding down, 4:2 is starting up, so it's not axed.