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A noob trying to play PS1 imports and "backups". Need help.

#1 User is offline OKei 

Posted 19 March 2011 - 11:42 PM

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Anyone here on Sonic Retro on the PlayStation importing scene? I'd like some help.

The purpose here is to play burned PS1 discs like that Rockman 8 prototype, and to play my real copies of Rockman DASH, and Biohazard on my PlayStation 2 Slim SCPH-70001 and PSone consoles. I understand there are "creative" methods to accomplish this.

The most common ones I find on the internet are using a sort of double disc swapping method that involves a real PS1 disc and a burned/imported one, and you have to repeatedly swap them both in a timed, instant fashion. Which I have tried doing that with just my PSone console many, many times to no luck. I find it to be complicated and stupid, and I'm sick of trying that.

Another is actually opening up your console (PS2 or PSone), and soldiering mod-chips into the console. I'm willing to do that with just my PSone console, but I ain't tampering with my PS2 Slim. It looks complicated, but it does sound fun to experiment, though.

Finally, and possibly the most costly, is buying one of those Breaker Pro discs for $20 USD which "allows playing PS-One import games and backup games on PS-One and PS2 game console without any internal modification". Sounds exactly what I want. With it, you only have to swap a disc once and not have to rush, unlike the first method mention above. I don't know if it scam, though. It does sound too good to be true.

I also have Action Replay for PS1, and Action Replay MAX for PS2. Could I use those?

Do you recommend that I invest on a Breaker Pro disc, or is there some other unlisted method that I haven't touched upon or don't know about?
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#2 User is offline Rika Chou 

Posted 20 March 2011 - 12:00 AM

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Does your Action Replay for PS1 have a CD player feature?

Mine does, so how I play backups on my PS2 is run the Action Replay disk, go to the CD player, press "STOP" which will stop the CD from spinning, swap in the backup (without letting the PS2 know), exit to the main menu and start game, it will tell you to insert the game disk, just press ok.

Since you have a slim, I guess you will need a spring or something.

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Posted 20 March 2011 - 12:19 AM

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QUOTE (Rika Chou @ Mar 19 2011, 10:00 PM)
[b]Does your Action Replay for PS1 have a CD player feature? [/b
Unfortunately, it doesn't. I did experiment with the "Explorer" feature of the AR disc, but again no luck. I used an Japanese disc, BTW.

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Posted 20 March 2011 - 03:30 AM

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Honestly, I'd recommend the Breaker Pro. 20 bucks isn't too bad if you plan to use this alot and it's definitely going to be one of the easier methods you'll come across. I've tried plenty, trust me :P Makes me wish I had the Breaker Pro.

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If you have a PSP-2000 (or newer), you could hook it up to your TV and run PS1 games off of Sony's fairly decent emulator. It also saves you time swapping discs and it's more convenient because you can fit several games on a larger memory stick.

PS1 games are probably the only games that actually work in SD mode, though. Everything else for PSP requires progressive scan. :/

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Posted 21 March 2011 - 05:05 PM

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If you have a PS2 slim w/ fliptop lid, it is easy - albiet potentially risky if you use this method:

Boot the PS2 with no disk. Put in a PS1 disk [legit], don't start the game. Open the fliptop lid, carefully remove the still spinning PS1 disk and replace it with your import, or burned PS1 disk. Boot the game, it doesn't re-check to make sure a proper PS1 disk is inside, and assuming your import, or burned disk is good, will boot normally. :D :D :D :D :D :D
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Posted 22 March 2011 - 12:22 AM

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I have a PS X-Change 2 disc for PS1 and it works well with all my import and burned games. It comes with a spring for the original PS1 and a PVC card you can tape down with clear shipping tape for the mini PS One system. (It says the adhesive will keep it down but it is not strong enough so put a strip of shipping tape on it so it doesn't pop up and scratch a disc.)

The only PS1 game I know for sure will not work on a US system, modded or swap disc-ed or not is the original Japanese exclusive King's Field from late 1994.

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Posted 22 March 2011 - 01:48 AM

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QUOTE (The Game Collector @ Mar 21 2011, 10:22 PM)
I have a PS X-Change 2 disc for PS1 and it works well with all my import and burned games. It comes with a spring for the original PS1 and a PVC card you can tape down with clear shipping tape for the mini PS One system. (It says the adhesive will keep it down but it is not strong enough so put a strip of shipping tape on it so it doesn't pop up and scratch a disc.)
Does using this X-Change 2 disc involve constantly swapping discs like this video is showing:


Because I won't do that.

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Posted 22 March 2011 - 03:39 AM

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I'm not sure about the "X-Change 2" specifically, but most discs like that will stop the disc from spinning before you do the swap.

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Posted 22 March 2011 - 04:14 AM

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QUOTE (OKei @ Mar 22 2011, 07:48 AM)
QUOTE (The Game Collector @ Mar 21 2011, 10:22 PM)
I have a PS X-Change 2 disc for PS1 and it works well with all my import and burned games. It comes with a spring for the original PS1 and a PVC card you can tape down with clear shipping tape for the mini PS One system. (It says the adhesive will keep it down but it is not strong enough so put a strip of shipping tape on it so it doesn't pop up and scratch a disc.)
Does using this X-Change 2 disc involve constantly swapping discs like this video is showing:


Because I won't do that.


No the only time you change the disc is when you start the system up.

Turn on the system with the boot disc in. The device allows you to start the system with the lid open. The disc will stop spinning after the menu comes up. You take the disc out and insert the game disc. Press start to make the game disc start spinning and load.

There is also a cheat code menu when your press select at the startup menu so you can input Gameshark codes or anti-mod chip lockout bypass codes for games that don't normally work with mod chips.

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Posted 22 March 2011 - 01:40 PM

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Chip your PS1, get a swapmagic disk for your ps2 slim.

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Posted 22 March 2011 - 04:16 PM

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Does anyone still provide a modchipping service for PS1s or alternatively PS2s? I could do with some chippy goodness.

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Posted 22 March 2011 - 05:16 PM

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QUOTE (MarzSyndrome @ Mar 22 2011, 09:16 PM)
Does anyone still provide a modchipping service for PS1s or alternatively PS2s? I could do with some chippy goodness.

you can buy the chips, but you have to install yourself IIRC.


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QUOTE (Uberham @ Mar 22 2011, 10:16 PM)
QUOTE (MarzSyndrome @ Mar 22 2011, 09:16 PM)
Does anyone still provide a modchipping service for PS1s or alternatively PS2s? I could do with some chippy goodness.

you can buy the chips, but you have to install yourself IIRC.
Yeah, and I can't trust myself to not screw it up somehow. Really hope the whole "modding service" thing isn't dead these days.

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Posted 23 March 2011 - 01:16 AM

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QUOTE (Uberham @ Mar 22 2011, 02:40 PM)
Chip your PS1, get a swapmagic disk for your ps2 slim.

Swap Magic doesn't allow booting of PSX backups on a PS2 (not sure about original imports, however). AFAIK, on the PS2 you're limited to either a modchip or the swap method (blocking the sensors in the slim, allowing the drive to be opened without the console knowing). Swap method might work with something like the aforementioned X-Change 2 disc, but never tested it.

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