[PicklePower]

E102, on 07 September 2011 - 11:55 AM, said:

However, as more people use it, the source is lost and rumors are spread. You know, kind of like how PicklePower's error in forgetting the Competition Menu being replaced for Sonic & Knuckles Collection (and next to no one fixing that detail before I intervened) is the reason why the "Conversion difficulties" rumor is as strong as it is.

Well, in my defense (months later ), I would say that the MJ article was fairly incomplete before I started working on it. And I do my best not to introduce false information. The MJ story is a difficult one to research because of so much misinformation floating around. Good thing it is a communal wiki.

[Dissident93]

PicklePower, on 13 December 2011 - 11:53 PM, said:

E102, on 07 September 2011 - 11:55 AM, said:

However, as more people use it, the source is lost and rumors are spread. You know, kind of like how PicklePower's error in forgetting the Competition Menu being replaced for Sonic & Knuckles Collection (and next to no one fixing that detail before I intervened) is the reason why the "Conversion difficulties" rumor is as strong as it is.

Well, in my defense (months later ), I would say that the MJ article was fairly incomplete before I started working on it. And I do my best not to introduce false information. The MJ story is a difficult one to research because of so much misinformation floating around. Good thing it is a communal wiki.

Not only misinformation, but a reluctance for anybody to talk about it. I've asked quite a few people associated with Sonic 3, and they all back off eventually. They're covering up for MJ, since he holds so much legal power, I'd assume.

[Afro Thunder]

Dissident93, on 14 December 2011 - 02:01 AM, said:

....I've asked quite a few people associated with Sonic 3, and they all back off eventually. They're covering up for MJ, since he holds so much legal power, I'd assume.

I can understand that, considering that Sega would have to change the music (again) in later ports of the game, or somehow compensate for unpaid royalties if the estate decided to take legal action, which likely isn't gonna happen due to the high possibility that nobody from the estate was/is aware of MJ's involvement with that game.

Getting back on topic with some musical similarities, I'll post some Bobby Brown similarities here I didn't find in this thread.

Sonic 1:

Spring Yard Zone

Every Little Step

Sonic 2:

Mystic Cave

We're Back

I think it's the basslines that stand out the most in this case, but they seem to share almost the same melody too.

[nesboy43]

While on the subject of MJ and Sonic 3 I know people are aware of the S3 Credits being the same as "Stranger in Moscow", the song "Jam" being sampled in Carnival Night Zone, and various other comparisons but there is one thing I noticed recently while listening to the Dangerous album that I'm not sure if people know of yet. If you go to 1:42 in this video you can hear knuckles theme (when he hits switches to sabotage Sonic throughout the game), almost too similar to be coincidental, although it is a simplistic beat. Note: The MJ video may be slightly NSFW.

This post has been edited by nesboy43: 15 December 2011 - 08:11 PM

[Mercury]

This isn't a direct comparison of two songs, but since the "music that reminds you of Sonic" thread seems to have sunken into the murky depths of history:



Fuck me if this doesn't sound like something straight out of Colours, with just a dash of Rush Adventure.

[Afro Thunder]

nesboy43, on 15 December 2011 - 08:10 PM, said:

...

First, NSFW isn't how I'd describe that video. Second, that similarity has been discovered since either 2007 or 2008. And that isn't the only MJ song S3's Knuckles' theme goes with.

[evilhamwizard]

Nice one for everyone who's crazy about Sonic CD (EU).

I found the sample cd that they must've used to get MANY of their samples. It's a pretty popular one published in 1990 called Zero-G DATAFILE 01. It has a BUTTLOAD of early 90s/late 80s hip hop samples and loops.

Synthmania put up some small demos from each CD. You can listen to 1, 2 and 3 here.
Sonic CD:

ZG VOX 32.3 - Turn it Up! ~ Stardust Speedway Present (it's a lower pitch in the song)
ZG HFX 46.5 - Alarm ~ Not Sonic CD related, but it's from "Brand-new World" (from the Sonic Remix album)
ZG SCR 58.# - Record Scratch ~ Stardust Speedway Present (good chance they used most of these)

In another version of this cd, there are other samples that were supposedly used as well. But I can't seem to find these samples in this one. Perhaps this is for Volume 2, since there were a total of 3 volumes I think. Someone over at HCS Forum pointed these out.

(Palmtree Panic Bad Future)
ZG2 SPEECH 5

(Palmtree Panic Bad Future ELEVATOR)
ZG2 SFSPEECH

(Collision Chaos Present)
ZG2 SPEECH 5

(Stardust Present)
ZG2 SPEECH 2

(Boss Theme)
ZG2 SPEECH 3
ZG2 SPEECH 5
ZG2 GUITARS2

If you've played Jet Set Radio, you might recognize a lot of the samples included in these CDs as well. I've heard at least a dozen of these in some Konami music games.

EDIT: Before I forget, I also found another instance where the Sonic 1 drum snare is used. Some of the songs in Darius Gaiden use the sample. The music in the game is sequenced, perhaps there's a way to extract the sample out?

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Cinossu EDIT: Sorry, but seeing as you can actually still purchase these packs, they are considered illegal download links. As such, they've been removed.
ehw edit: Whoops, didn't know that. I assumed since these were pretty old that they were not in print anymore, or in public domain. My mistake. Replaced them with demo tracks from synthmania in the mean time.

This post has been edited by evilhamwizard: 04 February 2012 - 11:47 AM

[jasonchrist]

To me this just screams "Sonic CD past"

[Vantoggle]

I wouldn't be surprised if this was either a coincidence or that they were both inspired by something else, but it was enough for me to stop work and click the pause button on netflix.

Myth busters vs
Emerald challenge

[Mykonos]

Vantoggle, on 18 February 2012 - 02:53 PM, said:

I wouldn't be surprised if this was either a coincidence or that they were both inspired by something else, but it was enough for me to stop work and click the pause button on netflix.

Myth busters vs
Emerald challenge

Oh wow. I always thought that music seemed a bit familiar, it's definitely similar to the Emerald Challenge.

[The KKM]

I think this fits here?









Have a shittingly edited video trying to show I find Silver Screen (Chaotix) and Time Eater (Generations) quite similar.

[Mercury]

I was listening to this:


and realised it has very prominent similarities to this song from the OVA:

[BlackFive]

Am I the only one who immediately thought of this:



when first hearing this:



It's mainly the bass line (and the former's intro) that is similar.

This post has been edited by BlackFive: 27 March 2012 - 03:35 PM

[Skyler]

Shadix sent this to me, saying only the words, "Splash Hill."

[Falk]

That's actually an extremely cliche Japanese progression. See: sans the 3rd chord