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#31 User is offline Meat Miracle 

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Which ones used those four characters you think of?

T-999 was used as prototype dummy headers sometimes.

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Bump.

According to TmEE's doc, there are some Technosoft games which use T-19 in the header; this is strange, seeing as I can't find any actual releases using T-19. What games use this?

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Double-posting because I can:



Any idea on what the name of this game's publisher may be?

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QUOTE (Scarred Sun @ Oct 18 2010, 07:22 PM)
Any idea on what the name of this game's publisher may be?

Has the ROM been dumped? If there's no other way, it might be possible to find out who made it by looking for the sound driver and compression formats. This would only tell you the developer though, not the publisher.

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About that game, it seems to be called "San San" and it requires the Mega Modem. I don't think there's a dump.

Edit: According to Wikipedia, it was developed and published by "San San". (a race horse? haha....)

Edit again:
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San San – $350 – $550
Sansan was a game created for uses with the modem unit on the Japanese genesis. It usually sells for the higher mark of $400 on auction sites but can be obtained a lot easer in Tokyo's gaming district where it has been know to pop up from time to time for a lot less. Needless to say the game is now un-playable since the modems are no longer active



Edit #3: More stuff here. Lists the publisher as "Sansan Co., Ltd."

Edit 4: Their official website.
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Well, that's anticlimactic. Still interested in the Technosoft disparity, though.

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Do we have a list of all the 670-xxxx serials that Sega used? Apparently everything released by Sega, hardware and software alike, had that number.

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I believe all carts and discs from Mega Drive, Saturn and Dreamcast are 670, but in everything else, there are exceptions.

Accessories have no print code of the sort. An exception is the King of Fighters cart for SS, with a 670 code. Packing for all accessories ranges from 671 to 672.

A fair few manuals are 672 (about half the Saturn collection is like this), even if the CD and pack are 670. A bizarre coding is Shining Force III is 700, 710 and 720 for CD, manual and pack.

Dreamcast games seem to be the most eccentric. There are no 670 games and they follow this rule: 810 in the manual, 820 in the pack, 830 in the CD.

Then there are the demos: Both Flash Volume 1 have 670 but both Dream On Volume 1 have 832 / 833 on the discs. Then the "given" games, such as Virtua Fighter (first version) with no code on the manual or pack.

PC games after Heroes have no code at all, at least the versions I have.

I speak of PAL at least.

Such a list is too extensive. To my knowledge, no one ever attempted it.
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Well is there even a partial one? With madroms' help I could maybe write up most Saturn things, but is there a list for dreamcast, megadrive, master system, mark-whatever, and arcade stuff?
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No, there is none, at least I've put some codes in google and nothing came up. I can help out with some MD, SS and DC, both games and accessories for PAL and some japanese unsorted stuff.

PAL games have a particularity too. The code is 670-xxxx and then have a -50 in appendix. However, sometimes it is not 50 but some other number, and these are scattered across several countries. As an example, there are two DBZ: Legends series. One is 06, I got this one back in the day, I believe it's the U.K. version (disc was made in Ireland). Then there is the French version, with 09. The back covers are slightly different. Who knows if there's a German / Spanish / Italian, whatever code number.

U.K.: http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a361/Zik...egendsaturn.jpg
French: http://www.zonesega.com/file/covers/saturn...20%5BEUR%5D.jpg

Notice the first has The Legends as subtitle but the second does not.

In addition flunked.png I've read somewhere said that there are two U.K. packs, one is cardboard, the other sleeve. The one above is the most antique one, cardboard. Equal to the one that I have. I've never seen a sleeve one, and I can't say the number is the same.

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18 DE
06 ES

but I think there may be a few exceptions to the rule
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Yeah, I have most of the Saturn stuff thanks to madroms' database, though it only lists stuff on the CDs, so no codes for booklets. Your other copy of DBZ Legends is the Spanish copy, which is actually a copy of the french release with different covers. (the "made in" part only tells where the disc was manufactured, not which country release it is)

The serial prefixes I have are:
-05 = U.K.
-06 = Spain
-07 = generic Asia
-08 = Korea
-09 = France
-11 = China (FREETRON CO.)
-13 = Italy (Megadrive)
-16 = China (ACER TWP CORP.)
-18 = Germany
-20 = Netherlands
-40 = China (Megadrive)
-45 = Brazil
-46 = Portugal
-50 = generic PAL
-51 = Italy (Saturn)
-55 = Netherlands
-78 = generic Scandinavia

Italy, Netherlands and China appear multiple times, apparently due to having different publishers?
-07 I only saw on certain hardware models.
Also, most of these numbers are used throughout every console lifecycle - I've seen -18 used for Germany in Megadrive, Saturn AND Dreamcast titles.

Also, I've seen -01, -02, etc used for demo discs, up to at least -32 (Flash Segasaturn vol.32). Also, it was used on some hardware too (670-5648-01 to -04, all of them model 1 japanese saturns from different manufacturers).
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I don't know if this will help much but I did make a list of the serial numbers stored in he MD ROMs in the latest no-intro set — only use the first 14 characters though
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QUOTE (Andlabs @ Jun 16 2011, 07:56 AM)
I don't know if this will help much but I did make a list of the serial numbers stored in he MD ROMs in the latest no-intro set — only use the first 14 characters though


Hahaha, smart.
It looks like the MD roms mainly used the extra numbers for alt versions, not alt regions, with a few minor exceptions (-50 and -45). However, Megadrive games still used the actual region suffix on the boxes themselves, for example Tojam & Earl 2 german version still has the -18 on the box, but not in the game rom.
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Info dump.

CODE
SATURN PAL
MANUAL      CD           PACK         NAME
672-3024-50 670-8175-50  670-8176-50  BAKU
672-2577-50 670-6960-50  670-6961.50  DAYTONA
672-4145-06 670-9764-06  670-9765-50  DBZ
672-4473-50 670-10861-50 670-10862-50 FIGHTERS MEGAMIX
672-3706-50 670-8406-50  670-8407-50  NIGHTS
672-3786-50 670-8660-50  670-8661-50  PANZER II
710-0004-50 -----------  740-0003-50  PANZER SAGA
*CD1 - 700-0008-50, CD2 - 700-0009-50, CD3 - 700-00010-50, CD1 - 700-0011-50
672-2966-50 670-8012-50  670-8013-50  SEGA RALLY
???-????-?? 670-10980-50 670-10981-50 SHINING HOLY ARK
710-0009-50 700-0023-50  720-0015-50  SHINING FORCE 3
672-4306-50 670-10308-50 670-10309-50 SONIC 3D
672-4558-50 670-11199-50 670-11200-50 SONIC JAM
672-4181-50 670-9875-50  670-9876-50  SUPER PUZZLE FIGHTER II TURBO
672-3859-50 670-8896-50  670-8897-50  TETRIS
672-4562-50 670-11208-50 670-11209-50 TOURING CAR
----------- 670-6958-50  -----------  VIRTUA FIGHTER (CD CASE V.)
672-4039-50 670-9453-50  670-9454-50  WORLWIDE SOCCER 97
672-4532-50 670-11095-50 670-11096-50 WORLWIDE SOCCER 98


I can't find the manual for the Holy Ark. I could swear I had Panzer I over here too. ohdear.png

I have around the same number of DC games over here. I'll post them later.
This post has been edited by 0r4ng3: 17 June 2011 - 03:19 AM

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