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Streets of Rage 3 not that pussy game Bare Knuckle 3

#1 User is offline Toasty 

Posted 28 November 2009 - 09:07 AM

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I didn't even know this game existed until the internet told me a few years ago. When I originally played it on an emulator, I thought it was hard as fuck. I died like 3 times in the first stage. D= A friend of mine convinced me the game was awesome and it was worth playing, so I decided to buy it. ...However, it goes for $30+ on eBay and I don't pay that much for ANY Sega Genesis game. I ended up having my friend trade it to me, for a few Pokemon cards.

Anyway, about the game. It's fucking awesome. Way better than its predecessors, especially Streets of Rage 2 (SOR2 had the worst gameplay of the three, and yes, I know you people disagree for some reason). Although I'd love to see Blaze return in her red dress, silver suits her fine. Poor Axel, his new clothes are ugly though. sad.png Skate also looks better in the US version.

Pros (compared to BK3 and its predecessors):

-The gameplay was altered so now it's not a piece of cake anymore.
-You can attack while holding a weapon. Oh my god, Streets of Rage 2 was so annoying because of that.
-Skate, my favorite character, returned from the previous game.
-Beautiful graphics.
-The music was pretty cool. Some of my favorite tracks are Crazy Train (fight w/Jet), Shinobi Reverse (fight w/Yamato), and Dance Club.
-The bosses were cool as hell. My favorite boss is Yamato, even though he gets like nine lives.
-The official art was improved from the previous game (which had hideous artwork.)

Cons:

-The gameplay in this game is unfair sometimes. If one of the yellow punks slides into you, he takes off like 1/8 of your HP. :\
-Mona and Lisa returned and they're still cunts.
-Adam didn't make a reappearance and Skate still sucks. sad.png
-Yamato gets 9 lives. What the fuck! At least he's a pussy though.
-The perfect ending is really hard to get. Beating Robot Y is easy; it's just that you have to kill him five times in three minutes.
-It was censored, but the stuff they censored isn't really much to bitch about.

Now, about Bare Knuckle 3. I actually own a cartridge of BK3, and it's really easy. Too easy. The thing I hate most about this game is you get assraped everytime you use a special move without the bar charging up.

Who else loves SOR3?
This post has been edited by Toasty: 01 December 2009 - 06:01 AM

#2 User is offline SiddtheKidd 

Posted 28 November 2009 - 10:40 AM

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Ok some points here
QUOTE (Toasty @ Nov 28 2009, 06:07 AM)
Anyway, about the game. It's fucking awesome. Way better than its predecessors, especially Streets of Rage 2 (SOR2 had the worst gameplay of the three, and yes, I know you nostalgia faggots disagree for some reason). Although I'd love to see Blaze return in her red dress, silver suits her fine. Poor Axel, his new clothes are ugly though. sad.png Skate also looks better in the US version.


Oh my ass! Nostalgia faggots only disagree that the difficulty is a bunch of bullshit compared to sor2 which challenges you by mixing shit up. This piece of fuck did nothing but add life bars, ridiculously up the damage and gave stupid invincibility frames. Better difficulty? bullshit better gameplay? depends on your tastes, sor3 brings faster arcade like gameplay while sor2 was slower paced and simplistic but still challenging. Neither can be better than the other sor3 brings new things, no shit it's a sequel.

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Pros (compared to BK3 and its predecessors):

-The gameplay was altered so now it's not a piece of cake anymore.
-You can attack while holding a weapon. Oh my god, Streets of Rage 2 was so annoying because of that.
-Skate, my favorite character, returned from the previous game.
-Beautiful graphics.
-The music was pretty cool. Some of my favorite tracks are Crazy Train (fight w/Jet), Shinobi Reverse (fight w/Yamato), and Dance Club.
-The bosses were cool as hell. My favorite boss is Yamato, even though he gets like nine lives.
-The official art was improved from the previous game (which had hideous artwork.)


-I find mania much harder than this game, but maybe that's just me.
- agreed
- Sammy biotch! fuck that soa shit. v.png
- well if drunk axel, I have to piss blaze and hype on crack sammy is your thing that's cool I guess. the only thing I can agree here with is the baddies and the stages are pretty sweet
- All about tastes but I agree here too
- eh could've used a little more diversity than using shiva twice and making an axel clone. Yamato is an asshole, nuff said.
- some of it was others were fuckin' horrid

just to add some
-star moves, could've been better used but they're awesome
-special meter, definitely put a new spin on the system, I just wish the gameplay actually challenged you to use it.
-sprites are just love/hate here, I could go into detail but then I'd give you paragraphs, who wants that?
-new atmosphere, I guess this is just debatable, but I liked the change in pace and setting.

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Cons:

-The gameplay in this game is unfair sometimes. If one of the yellow punks slides into you, he takes off like 1/8 of your HP. :\
-Mona and Lisa returned and they're still cunts.
-Adam didn't make a reappearance and Skate still sucks. sad.png
-Yamato gets 9 lives. What the fuck! At least he's a pussy though.
-The perfect ending is really hard to get. Beating Robot Y is easy; it's just that you have to kill him five times in three minutes.
-It was censored, but the stuff they censored isn't really much to bitch about.


-It's more than unfair, it's bullshit! They still go into a pattern *which made bk3 too easy in the first place* the only difference as I said above was the unnecessary changes, if they were given a smarter ai like in sor2 *before you even go there, I'm aware of how easy the game is, doesn't mean they don't play smart* It would be more challenging. It's basically back to this sor1 shit where "they're overpowered but once you find a pattern your a god" gameplay reigns supreme
-yup but that's not too much a con to me
-adam not appearing made me go wtf, he could've at least been a secret character, Sammy is meant to be a challenged character, he's much better in 3 imo.
-robotY.. *barf* I mean Neo X isn't that hard to beat, it's back to sor1 basics, remember the "OH JUMPAKEEK! move?"
- other than axel's piss colored shirt, bar a couple of stupid names and well electra I guess I can agree here.

adding some
- graphics again love/hate axel is fucking ugly as hell and looks like a damn drunk, everyone is dark skinned, seriously this shows that browning "realism" shit dates back to even retro days, cutscenes are hit and miss for me some are awful while others are pretty nice.
-the ai is stupid, again they aren't smarter just plain overpowered. Who the fuck thinks that upping shit like y.signals sliding damage would add challenge rather than just fucking the player over?
-story, no one too much gives a shit because it's a beat em up, but they could've tried harder if they were going to change shit up rather than just translating.


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Now, about Bare Knuckle 3. I actually own a cartridge of BK3, and it's really easy. Too easy. The thing I hate most about this game is you get assraped everytime you use a special move without the bar charging up.

Who else loves SOR3?

I agree about bk3, too easy and the meter system fucks you everytime, it's ridiculous.

no love no hate, I just play the game.

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I dunno, I much prefer BK3, but then I'm a sucker for fast-paced easy games.




Obviously.

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Ok, so I like Streets of Rage as a series and Streets of Rage 3 is my favourite. It's hard to explain why and I myself and a bit unsure, but it feels more balanced and a bit faster than SOR2. That said, it does have it's flaws and the story is just plain awful.
(Then again, that's because they couldn't use the original story that was used in Japan for several reasons and thus made up one for the Western region. Seems like a last minute replacement job)

Difficulty hasn't really been a problem for myself with the game, I just saw it as a lot longer than the previous ones, with the levels having several sections that don't feel like a small transition, unlike SOR2. That said, some of these sections do drag on for a bit too long (The underground railway for example).

I could go on for hours, but what's the point. I will say that if you want to enjoy this game properly, the way it's supposed to be played, why not check out the "Unofficial" English Translation of the Japanese version?
Bare Knuckle 3 - English

EDIT: Forgot to mention it's unofficial.
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SOR3>SOR2?

are you fucking high?

the ONLY bad point I can find with SOR2 is dropping weapons in grab moves.

it's as close to perfect as you can get.

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Actually, I think it's slow and boring. None of the characters can dash (except Skate, who sucks anyway), special moves are a waste (losing HP to use them :\), and none of the bosses were very memorable. The only thing I really liked about this game more than its sequel is how the enemies don't take your health powerups. That really pisses me off in SOR3.

I'd say SOR3 > SOR1 > SOR2.

edit: Oh, and SoR2 is harder than SoR3
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I found pulling off this game's dash+b type moves quite difficult in SoR2, actually. It always bothered me. And I agree that a lot of the bosses sucked; I think the thing that irritated me the most is that they all came back at the end a few times -- a bit overused there, I'd say.
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QUOTE (Toasty @ Nov 28 2009, 11:37 PM)
(SOR2 had the worst gameplay of the three, and yes, I know you nostalgia faggots disagree for some reason)
I beg to differ. I found that SOR2 had a playstyle that fit the levels quite well (although, compared to SOR3, they felt a bit laggy) and only recently played the games. I think it comes down to personal preference - not being a nostalgia faggot. In any case SOR2 >SOR3 >SOR1

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Yep I loved SOR3, then found out about the differences in BK3, but I've got a patched SOR3 rom that restores the original character colors, and the BK3 English translation hack. :D

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I still prefer SOR2, because of the soundtrack. I hated SOR3's soundtrack, there were only about 2 or 3 songs I liked. The one thing I did like about SOR3 was that it had more of a story. Also I like the fact that SOR2 is more difficult than SOR3. SOR2>SOR1>SOR3, it just wasn't as good as the first two.

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I prefer Streets of Rage 1, from my Genesis 6-Pak. v.png

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Nostalgia makes me prefer the original Streets of Rage over it's sequels. :P

Since this is mainly a SoR2 vs SoR3 debate, though, I think Streets of Rage 2 had a superior soundtrack and nicely-balanced gameplay. I just wish you could dash. sad.png

So:

SOR1>SOR2>SOR3

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QUOTE (Ashram @ Nov 29 2009, 09:13 PM)
I prefer Streets of Rage 1, from my Genesis 6-Pak. v.png


5-in-1 arcade collection all the way. Well, that damn lack of 2-player in Golden Axe is irritating.

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QUOTE (D.A. Garden @ Nov 28 2009, 11:13 AM)
I could go on for hours, but what's the point. I will say that if you want to enjoy this game properly, the way it's supposed to be played, why not check out the English Translation of the Japanese version?
Bare Knuckle 3 - English
Seeing "Laxine" translated as "Rakushin" makes me doubt about the quality of that translation.

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SoR3 was way too fucking long for what it was.

This is why SoR2 will always be superior. It knew when to end. It also didn't shove 900 enemies at you before you can progress a single screen.

And in no way did SoR2 have shittier system than SoR3. You can't combo everything in SoR3 like you can in SoR2, plus having directional special moves helped mix things up. (Not the ones that take your life bar.)

If you were really good and knew how to combo everything and mix it up with throws, you could clear SoR2 without ever getting hit. Shit, you could even recover from falls with no damage. Simple beat-em up to those who only know how to mash buttons, a lot more in depth for those who were dedicated on clearly the hardest difficulty with super awesome style points.

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