I was talking to my good friend Cyan Helkaraxe (of Sonic hacking fame) about if it were possible for him to implent Knuckles into the original Sonic The Hedgehog correctly with all his moves and such. He said it was, but it would be a big project, and he doesn't think its that big a thing to pursue. If you think it is, reply here and I shall link him over here to show that it might be something worth the trouble.
Knuckles In Sonic 1 - A Possibility
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Rob Jinnai 
Posted 18 April 2003 - 10:09 PM
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Well, the original "lock on" for Sonic 2 was simply a patch program for Sonic 2 (the infamous 256KB) and just used the Sonic 2 cartridge for graphics data...
Such a project WOULD be a major undertaking, but it's kind of like the work being done on the Sonic 2 Delta hoax project. On that note, that guy is probably more "in" with the Sonic engine code than Cyan would be. :P
Such a project WOULD be a major undertaking, but it's kind of like the work being done on the Sonic 2 Delta hoax project. On that note, that guy is probably more "in" with the Sonic engine code than Cyan would be. :P
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People are working on this as we speak.
#5 *GenoSonic*
Posted 19 April 2003 - 03:52 PM
Yea, I've heard a few other people say someone's working on this. One that's trying to use C++ to work with things, and then someone said someone at Sonic Cult is trying it as well.
And Rob, what are your doubts within Cyan?
And Rob, what are your doubts within Cyan?
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Posted 19 April 2003 - 09:36 PM
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And Rob, what are your doubts within Cyan?
Nothing. I barely know the guy, but he helped me with some tech info when I was trying some experimental Genesis programming way back when... just from what I [limitedly] know about Cyan, it sounds like he's more a general "Genesis Technician" than expert in Sonic engine code specifically. But I could be wrong, don't mind me.
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Posted 21 April 2003 - 10:54 AM
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It's easy to put Knuckles or whatever into Sonic 1. Just reprogram the first object, and the eyepoint with follow it. Here's the source:
TST.W $FE08
BEQ SONIC_PLAYER
JMP DEBUG_PLAYER
SONIC_PLAYER
moveq #0,d0
move.b $0024(a0),d0
move LAB_0(pc,d0),d1
jmp LAB_0(pc,d1)
LAB_0
dc.w LAB_1-14
dc.w LAB_2-14
dc.w LAB_3-14
dc.w LAB_4-14
dc.w LAB_5-14
LAB_1
addq.b #2,$0024(a0)
LAB_2
LAB_3
LAB_4
LAB_5
rts
DEBUG_PLAYER
rts
TST.W $FE08
BEQ SONIC_PLAYER
JMP DEBUG_PLAYER
SONIC_PLAYER
moveq #0,d0
move.b $0024(a0),d0
move LAB_0(pc,d0),d1
jmp LAB_0(pc,d1)
LAB_0
dc.w LAB_1-14
dc.w LAB_2-14
dc.w LAB_3-14
dc.w LAB_4-14
dc.w LAB_5-14
LAB_1
addq.b #2,$0024(a0)
LAB_2
LAB_3
LAB_4
LAB_5
rts
DEBUG_PLAYER
rts
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Posted 21 April 2003 - 02:57 PM
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But does that allow him to glide/climb walls? I don't think so.
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Posted 26 April 2003 - 07:00 PM
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L0st, have you ever considered making a hack like that by yourself?
L0st, have you ever considered making a hack like that by yourself?
I was on my way to make one just before A51 died. Since then, it hasn't been any reasons for me to do hacks.
With Nemesis decompressor, nothing is inpossible. It just takes time.
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Jan Abaza
Posted 27 April 2003 - 03:15 AM
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With Nemesis decompressor, nothing is inpossible. It just takes time.
True. Everything the system is capable of can be done in assembly. ASM is difficult to learn, though.
(I sent the MD disassembler to Cyan over ICQ back in 1999, but he didn't do anything with it...so far. Also, I gave him this program SEGA used to make some 8-bit games, which I don't believe I have anymore.)
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Also, I gave him this program SEGA used to make some 8-bit games, which I don't believe I have anymore.)
Where did you get this program in the first place? Do you remember its name?
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Where did you get this program in the first place? Do you remember its name?
No and no. It was useless anyway, since it required SEGA's official emulator for testing, and I didn't have that.
I do remember graphics files having *.gan extension, if that's of any importance...
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Posted 27 April 2003 - 07:58 AM
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Where did you get this program in the first place? Do you remember its name?
No and no. It was useless anyway, since it required SEGA's official emulator for testing, and I didn't have that.
I do remember graphics files having *.gan extension, if that's of any importance...
I thought Sega never released any 8-bit information :shock: