[doc eggfan]

Project: H'
(pronounced Project Aitch Prime)

The Hybridisation Project Mark II

Aim: To create a true Master System port of the 16-bit Mega Drive/Genesis title Sonic the Hedgehog 2 using the engine of the 8-bit version of Sonic the Hedgehog 2. I'm hoping that this could be another community project if it garners enough interest.

Phase 1: Art

Step 1.

Download: project h.zip - 0.34MB


Contents:

• Sonic the Hedgehog 2.sms
  
• Uncompressed 8x8 Level tiles for each zone + TLP palettes
  
• Uncompressed 8x8 Art tiles for each zone's title card + TLP palettes
  
• Save States for each zone

Step 2.

I. Create new 8-bit style 8x8 level tiles, based on the themes and content of the 16-bit zones. This would be best achieved by editing the pre-existing art tiles. This is because it would be easier for me to integrate back into the rom using the standard mappings and collision set. There is some wriggle-room though, if you want to push the boundaries a bit. Might I suggest the following possible combinations:

• Emerald Hill based on Green Hills (obvious)
  
• Chemical Plant based on either Scrambled Egg or Aqua Lake
  
• Aquatic Ruin based on either Aqua Lake or Underground
  
• Casino Night based on Gimmick Mountain or Crystal Egg
  
• Hill Top based on Sky High (obvious)
  
• Mystic Cave based on Underground
  
• Oil Ocean based on Gimmick Mountain or Aqua Lake
  
• Metropolis based on Gimmick Mountain
  
• Sky Chase based on Sky High
  
• Wing Fortress on Sky High or Gimmick Mountain
  
• Death Egg based on Crystal Egg Zone Act 3

II. Create new art for the title cards to match the new 8-bit recreations of the 16-bit zones. This could be based on the Level select icons or perhaps something entirely original.

Step 3.

Post images of mock-ups or save state screenshots here for evaluation. Those we collectively deem worthy, I'll do my best to integrate back into the rom.

This post has been edited by doc eggfan: 28 December 2010 - 03:41 PM

[P.P.A.]

Wasn't Sonic Pocket Adventure an 8-bit rendition of Sonic 2 basically?

[tokumaru]

P.P.A., on Aug 22 2008, 06:46 AM, said:

Wasn't Sonic Pocket Adventure an 8-bit rendition of Sonic 2 basically?

Technically, the NGPC is not an 8-bit machine, since it's CPU is a 16-bit one. What happens is that it's tiles have a low color count, similar to some older 8-bit machines. So I guess the answer is "no"... =)

I get what you mean though, it has "that feel". However, I think that the graphics in that game are much worse than they could be, so other attempts at recreating the MD/GEN feel in lower-end hardware is perfectly valid IMO.

Although I do believe there is an awful lot of Sonic 2 projects being worked on, so it would be nice if people started diversifying a bit more...!

[P.P.A.]

Oh, I forgot the NGPC was a 16-bit handheld.
Makes it even more embarassing that SPA looked worse than the Game Gear/Master System titles, in addition to not having unique level concepts (and then they chose to copy S2's, which had like the most generic and uninteresting designs of all the 16-bit games).

[Chimpo]

P.P.A., on Aug 22 2008, 04:19 AM, said:

Makes it even more embarassing that SPA looked worse than the Game Gear/Master System titles

What?

[Flygon]

Chimpo, on Aug 22 2008, 03:30 AM, said:

P.P.A., on Aug 22 2008, 04:19 AM, said:

Makes it even more embarassing that SPA looked worse than the Game Gear/Master System titles

What?

Some people prefer a pre-rendered 3D look to their games rather than a 'flat shaded' 8-bit looking sprite.

[P.P.A.]

Flygon, on Aug 22 2008, 01:55 PM, said:

Chimpo, on Aug 22 2008, 03:30 AM, said:

P.P.A., on Aug 22 2008, 04:19 AM, said:

Makes it even more embarassing that SPA looked worse than the Game Gear/Master System titles

What?

Some people prefer a pre-rendered 3D look to their games rather than a 'flat shaded' 8-bit looking sprite.

Okay, Game Gear/Master System titles titles except for Sonic Blast. Or Labyrinth. And the Drift games and Spinball and MBM.
In general when I say "Game Gear/Master System titles" I usually only refer to Sonic 1/Sonic2/Sonic Chaos/Sonic Triple Trouble and sometimes Tails' Adventure.

This post has been edited by P.P.A.: 22 August 2008 - 09:09 AM

[Polygon Jim]

Here's a direct link eggfan.

http://www.fileden.com/files/2008/4/29/188...project%20h.zip


Also, for EHZ, I suggest this.

http://www.spriters-resource.com/sega/soni...rainingzone.png

This post has been edited by GrandMasterJimmy: 22 August 2008 - 09:15 AM

[doc eggfan]

The spriting on the NGPC is actually 4-bit, because SNK decided that smoother animation was more important than lots of colours. It was a trade off that was worth it, and gives the NGPC a unique retro feel, but I'd like to see something more in the traditional 8-bit style for this project.

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Although I do believe there is an awful lot of Sonic 2 projects being worked on, so it would be nice if people started diversifying a bit more...!

I think that used to be the case, but I tend to see a lot more Sonic 1 hacks these days. Besides, this is an 8-bit Sonic 2 project, very few of those.

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Here's a direct link eggfan.

http://www.fileden.c...project%20h.zip


Also, for EHZ, I suggest this.

http://www.spriters-...rainingzone.png

Nice and NOICE! I'd forgotten about that art. The tree seems excessively large though.

Also, I had an idea on how I could fake a corkscrew for EHZ. Not sure if it will work, but I'll give it a go.

This post has been edited by doc eggfan: 22 August 2008 - 04:06 PM

[P.P.A.]

Wouldn't it be possible to somehow import that from Sonic Chaos? S&T had these corkscrew things.

I don't know if the S2/S&T/S&T2 trilogy runs on the same engine though.

[doc eggfan]

P.P.A., on Aug 23 2008, 06:42 AM, said:

Wouldn't it be possible to somehow import that from Sonic Chaos? S&T had these corkscrew things.

I don't know if the S2/S&T/S&T2 trilogy runs on the same engine though.

Anything's possible, but I'm not at that level of ownage yet. In any case, I prefer the 8-bit styling of the early games (1 and 2) rather than the later games (Chaos, TT)

[Mad Echidna]

With respect Eggfan, I think that it would be cooler to port Sonic 2 8 bit to genesis

[doc eggfan]

Mad Echidna, on Aug 23 2008, 07:11 AM, said:

With respect Eggfan, I think that it would be cooler to port Sonic 2 8 bit to genesis

Are you suggesting that maybe I should finish the projects I've already started before I start new ones?
You're probably right, I have a huge portfolio of unfinished projects. I have the attention span of a gnat.

[Polygon Jim]

I think this would be a greater project. I always loved the 8-bit games.

[doc eggfan]