[subsubstantive]

eh, not really selling out on the fence idea...

I second this...

[Vincent]

You have no limits to interpretation of concepts, however I must say to be not particularly fond of textures (except extremely subtle) as they tend to clash with the cartoony feeling too much.

Oh, and speaking of level concepts, Guys we really have little of Acquatic Ruin zone!

[MaximusDM]

Should I start making it in Maya? :O

[Canned Karma]

When it comes to zones that we've said repeatedly that we want concepts for, I don't think you need to ask. Let's see what you have in mind MDM.

[MaximusDM]

I dunno, I was kind of half joking, but I'll look into it.

[steveswede]

I dunno, I was kind of half joking, but I'll look into it.

Can Maya do that kinda stone work? I thought Maya was more of a steel frame structure program for buildings and bridges.

[Canned Karma]

I think you're confusing Maya with CAD, an architectural drafting program. Maya is a full 3D package like 3Ds Max, Softimage, Cinema4D, Lightwave, and many others.

[steveswede]

I think you're confusing Maya with CAD

Now you said it I remembered it being CAD.

[test-object]

You have no limits to interpretation of concepts, however I must say to be not particularly fond of textures (except extremely subtle) as they tend to clash with the cartoony feeling too much.

Ugh... facepalmajpeg

that damn texture was a quick placeholder for a more polished, handmade version. Read my post again : (

[LOst]

You have no limits to interpretation of concepts, however I must say to be not particularly fond of textures (except extremely subtle) as they tend to clash with the cartoony feeling too much.

Ugh... facepalmajpeg

that damn texture was a quick placeholder for a more polished, handmade version. Read my post again : (

I think he was announcing that to everyone, not as a reply to your post. As I didn't see any quote in his post. And I didn't find your post either.

This texture business really should be a decision rather sooner than later. Some people want to put dirt onto the surfaces of objects. Other people want to put dirt onto level surfaces and real organic things like trees.
I see texture as "dirt" over a design to make it more realistic, as if the Sonic 2 world had a real weather and the environment had existed for a long time.
We don't know the time span of Sonic 2, but from what I can tell, the game is pretty much indicating a new environment created over a very short time.
Then we have the whole cartoon style to think about. It is not easy to define Sonic 2 in HD.

A few simple rules to follow though:
- Pespective being kept orthographic 2D, with vertical axis allowed to be distorted while horizontal axis is kept flat perpendicular to a flat vertical line (Eggman's GHZ ball in Sonic 1).
- Primary light source coming straight from above, but adjusted to come from the direction of the the camera (Eggman's head spot light reflection).

[MaximusDM]

If a Grounder busted through a wall, it might possibly look like this:

3D:



2D:


And here is only the wall:

3D:



2D:

[nineko]

So one day God came to Earth and said "MaximusDM, I give you the skill to make awesome things in 3D so you can share them with the whole world".

'nuff said.

[sigma2x]

Indeed!
Theres some odd aliasing on some shadows though.


Is that Blender? normal maps?

[MaximusDM]

I use Maya, I've never used Blender.
Most of the weirdness is probably my fault as I manually moved around UV mapping on some blocks because I couldn't figure out a way to randomize the bumping mapping UVs because all the blocks looked exactly the same.

Edit: Just to add, I didn't actually do these to the scale that they are in the game I just did it by eye. And looking at it now, you can see they aren't as long as they should be. I didn't really want to get into all that because making foliage would be some serious business that I wasn't about to jump into.

This post has been edited by MaximusDM: 23 February 2010 - 04:27 PM

[steveswede]

MaximusDM

Your contributions to this project are amazing. I really am feeling the look of this game with the art you are doing.