[Deef]

I would like to ask how closely this aims to resemble classic physics?

I ask because in the Youtube vid, at 0:56 a rolling fall rebound would always return to full height if it used classic physics, regardless of jump button being held or not.

[MarkeyJester]

I think with Mercury working on it, it's bound to turn out very close considering the research he's done on Sonic's physics.

[Polygon Jim]

I can say they are very accurate. There's a few problems here and there but overall they are very nice.

[Solaris Paradox]

Not that a small change like that would necessarily harm anything, mind...

I'm really looking forward to playing this. I just hope my shitty budget PC can even run it. Doubtful, since Dragon Age: Origins is outside its capabilities even at minimum settings, but...

This post has been edited by Solaris Paradox: 16 October 2010 - 06:35 PM

[Deef]

Well I saw your bouncing challenge. That would be impossible for one...

[Eric Wright]

I would like to ask how closely this aims to resemble classic physics?

I ask because in the Youtube vid, at 0:56 a rolling fall rebound would always return to full height if it used classic physics, regardless of jump button being held or not.

recognized the same thing.... starting to wonder if I'm autistic, or if I've just really been playing these games for Way. Too. Long.

[Deef]

Is it a week yet?

:S

Is there an exact release date/time for this demo? I'm a little hyped.

[Clutch]

Wow, those standin' in the rain look really cool. I can really appreciate all the effort going into this, you guys really have something to be proud of here.

[Irixion]

So, what's the largest resolution this can run at?

[Elratauru]

So, what's the largest resolution this can run at?

The max you can get I believe. There shouldnt be any resolution limit, but remember that the textures are not vectorial and they will start looking a little blurry, but that happens in any 3D game that exists.

[Mercury]

About the whole "rolling off a cliff onto a badnik rebound height" thing:

I didn't really like the way classic Sonic physics handled this. If holding the jump button is what makes Sonic rebound, then that should happen in all cases. I don't like the fact that in some cases the player has no ability to cut the rebound short by releasing the button. There's no homing attack or anything, so you can just hold the button down as you hit the enemy to rebound.

In other words, the change was intentional.

A second intentional change is that Sonic can control the trajectory of his jumps even if he jumps while rolling. Sonic CD is the only one of the classics to do this, and I find it vastly superior. In fact, I can't imagine why the other way was ever used - what's the logic behind it?

Some of the physics inconsistencies aren't intentional, though. Unity can be a pain sometimes, and I wasn't able to make everything as accurate as I'd have liked. (For instance, the camera isn't accurate to the classics yet.)

[TheKazeblade]

About the whole "rolling off a cliff onto a badnik rebound height" thing:

I didn't really like the way classic Sonic physics handled this. If holding the jump button is what makes Sonic rebound, then that should happen in all cases. I don't like the fact that in some cases the player has no ability to cut the rebound short by releasing the button. There's no homing attack or anything, so you can just hold the button down as you hit the enemy to rebound.

In other words, the change was intentional.

A second intentional change is that Sonic can control the trajectory of his jumps even if he jumps while rolling. Sonic CD is the only one of the classics to do this, and I find it vastly superior. In fact, I can't imagine why the other way was ever used - what's the logic behind it?

Some of the physics inconsistencies aren't intentional, though. Unity can be a pain sometimes, and I wasn't able to make everything as accurate as I'd have liked. (For instance, the camera isn't accurate to the classics yet.)

I definitely had no problem with these changes. I loved how fluidly I could jump and seeing how I didn't even know about the rebound trick until more recently, I had no problem with that being changed as well.

I PM'd Pelikan13, but would you like us to PM you our findings as well? Not sure if they are of any consequence, but I just wanted to be sure

[DigitalDuck]

A second intentional change is that Sonic can control the trajectory of his jumps even if he jumps while rolling. Sonic CD is the only one of the classics to do this, and I find it vastly superior. In fact, I can't imagine why the other way was ever used - what's the logic behind it?

It's designed to limit the power of rolling, otherwise there's no reason to actually run anywhere. Sonic CD removed it because the Peelout was a reason to run (except they kinda messed that up with the ability to roll immediately afterwards).

Basically, it's there so you're not just a spinny ball of destruction.

[nineko]

So, what's the largest resolution this can run at?

The max you can get I believe.

I think so, because I can get 1600x1200 on my main computer and 1920x1080 on my laptop.
Then again I am not sure, because according to the control panel, my main computer's video card seems to support 1920x1080, 1920x1200, 1920x1440, and 2048x1536, even though they're not listed in SFR's configuration.

I PM'd Pelikan13, but would you like us to PM you our findings as well? Not sure if they are of any consequence, but I just wanted to be sure

I am sending everything to Pelikan only, and he said he forwarded the relevant things to Mercury.

[Deef]

Well it's great to hear that the physics changes were not just points overlooked, and I completely agree with the rebounding change. But controllable rolling jumps.... well what Digital Duck said. Having that control disabled deliberately was a big deal to me. I know that technically the player simply has more control with this change but I really liked how it was a battle of speed and control. You have the spin dash for free speed anywhere; the uncontrollable jump was kind of like tearing down a hill, needing to jump, and going "FFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUU..........".

Hmm, I guess there's no way to convince the creator to go against what he prefers. It makes Sonic CD feel... hmm.. "soft" to me. It really is a difference, just being able to roll up at any time knowing that there's no penalty for jumping out of it. A little bummed, oh well.