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ITT We attempt to explain Knuckles' plot in Sonic 3/Sonic 2

Discussion in 'General Sonic Discussion' started by Josh, Jul 4, 2009.

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  1. DimensionWarped

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    There wasn't any context for Knuckles in Sonic 2, so it's very hard to say what the ramifications of it being canon would have been.

    For starters, it would have meant Sonic would have been uninvolved with that. Fighting mecha Sonic would have seemed a lot less sensical. Knuckles would have already known Robotnik was the villain before Sonic 3, so he probably wouldn't have been fucking with Sonic the whole time. Sonic might not have jumped off the plane since he never would have got 7 chaos emeralds in Sonic 2, so Sonic 3 might even have opened up differently. Or maybe just with that surfing sequence that the beta had sprites for. Either way.

    Depending on which ending you choose for Sonic 2, Knuckles might have got all the emeralds instead, so he would have been the one going Super Knuckles at the drop of a hat while Sonic just sort of ends up being the guy who doesn't like Knuckles is later in the series. This would have course have significantly changed the events of Sonic Adventure and Sonic Adventure 2... where Sonic would have been absolutely clueless about everything emerald related. The main rivalry in the game might have even become Knuckles vs Shadow instead. Wouldn't that have been fucked up?

    I could carry the ripple of evil farther forwards, but I can't think straight right now.
     
  2. Black Squirrel

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    If there was some continuity it would have been really, really poor.

    Robotnik makes a Death Egg, then he makes it agan, and then again, and then... again


    It's like how Blue Sphere isn't related to the overall story either.
     
  3. Vendettagainst

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    How about it's a marketing gimmick and has no continuity? I mean, come on, up until Sonic 3 the games didn't even really have a story.
     
  4. PC2

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    Well, if you wanted to add a story, you could just say Robotnik somehow gets the emeralds (the Master Emerald maybe?) again and returns to Westside Island to wreak havoc and Knuckles chases after him. :/
     
  5. Mad Echidna

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    NO NO NO you guys, I'll tell you what happened. Weeks before Sonic caught wind of Robotnik's schemes, Knuckles used the platform transported in Hidden Palalce zone to transport to another planet. At the very moment the beam engaged, a solar flare occurred, sending Knuckles back in time to the moment Robotnik began his assault on Emerald Hill Zone. This is how it happened.
     
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  7. EDIT: Now that the threads are merged, I should probably note that I was half-joking when I said this. The fact that Knuckles' stories reuse almost every element of Sonic's story makes it hard for me to say that the two happened exactly the same way. The "It was all a dream" thing is sort of a cop-out, yes, but I feel it fits with the sort of "secondary story" status of both S3&K and K in S2.

    Makes for handy character development where it doesn't belong, though!
     
  8. Tweaker

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    It's always been said Knuckles is the guardian of the Chaos Emeralds on Angel Island. If that's the case, who was the guardian of the emeralds on Westside Island? Maybe Knuckles' role is to guard all sets of Chaos Emeralds?

    Also consider that at the beginning of Sonic 3, Knuckles took Westside Island's emeralds right from Sonic's grasp. Knuckles in Sonic 2 could be Knuckles going to Westside Island to return the emeralds to their rightful place! It doesn't make any sense given the context of the game, but it's a fun little idea to consider. ;P
     
  9. Chaos Knux

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    How about a nice little idea K2J came up with that I feel works well for Knuckles in Sonic 3 levels.
    It's a dream Knuckles had after doing shrooms all day in Mushroom Hill Zone, inspired by a conversation with Sonic and Tails.

    Reason for Edit: Post made before thread-merger, adding credit now that origin of thought is known.
     
  10. Jayextee

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    I'm sticking with my Elseworlds theory; it's not specified what, but for some reason, Sonic isn't around for the events of Sonic 2, but had to have succeeded in vanquishing Robotnik in Sonic 1, else Emerald Hill et al would have been Roboticised some time ago.

    But, given that (taking good ending as canonical) Robotnik is now aware of the Chaos Emeralds from Sonic 1, his attempts to mine for them (Mystic Cave -- isn't what this is all about) have bought about the interest of that other guardian of the Chaos Emeralds, Knuckles.

    Although this is getting into fanfic wankery already, and I should feel bad.

    It's just a game.
     
  11. Covarr

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    That didn't stop him in Sonic Adventure. It's already canon that Knuckles is a gullible dumbass.
     
  12. Clutch

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    Knuckles gets revenge on Eggman by going back in time and acting like a giant dick destroying all his stuff. Eggman manages to rebuild despite this...only for Sonic to run by and destroy it all over again.
     
  13. The Shad

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    Knuckles was pissed off at Robotnik still so he followed his ass to the S2 Island, tied the floating island to a tree, jacked Robotnik's shit up, and went home.
     
  14. nineko

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    I merged Trunks's new thread about Knuckles in Sonic 2 with an existing older thread about the same thing. Please continue from here.
     
  15. Frozen Nitrogen

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    You're a bad man, nineko. While Knuckles in S2 can only really be explained by a bad acid trip, Knuckles in S3 has legitimate canonical basis that I spent hours elaborating yesterday.
     
  16. nineko

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    That wiki article is very meaningful and I'm glad you posted it here, where it can get some more spotlight :)

    However I didn't edit Josh's old thread's title, it was already about "Knuckles' plot in Sonic 3/Sonic 2", as you can see by some of the older replies (which were nearly identical to the new ones, really), so I did nothing wrong here. I merged a source of informations with a new request for informations, and since the merged thread has only 4 pages I don't see the 200+ pages problem arose with Sonic 4's thread :)
     
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