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#31 User is offline TonicBH 

Posted 15 October 2006 - 09:47 AM

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I actually think "Who Is It" holds the percussion of AIZ, and the ending of that song sounds like ICZ's. But you can take my theories with some salt grains.

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View PostSamIAm, on Oct 15 2006, 05:31 AM, said:

And Witeoutking, it just so happens that "The Water", assuming this means Hydropolis zone, happens to be my favorite cut from the whole Sonic 3 soundtrack (specifically, the remix from the 2nd act). If you manage to politely bug Scirocco to the point that he gives you an original concept mix of this song, I will personally arrange for the pornstar of your choice to pull up to your house in a stretch limo and fuck your brains out for 2 hours. Either that, or I'll send you a PM jam PACKED with smileys.


Heh... well, it's pretty well assumed it means Hydrocity Zone, but then who knows, according to Scirocco, MJ called him up once in a while and left messages on his machine with ideas for stuff to use. Unfortunately, that stuff in particular I wouldn't be able to get a hold of unless I got in touch with MJ himself and sorted out the matter, and considering he was booted for the incidents that happened around then, odds are he wouldn't take too kindly to that. On the other hand, no telling what he'd do for a HUEG fan like myself ;P

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View PostWiteoutKing, on Oct 16 2006, 08:56 AM, said:

Heh... well, it's pretty well assumed it means Hydrocity Zone, but then who knows, according to Scirocco, MJ called him up once in a while and left messages on his machine with ideas for stuff to use. Unfortunately, that stuff in particular I wouldn't be able to get a hold of unless I got in touch with MJ himself and sorted out the matter, and considering he was booted for the incidents that happened around then, odds are he wouldn't take too kindly to that. On the other hand, no telling what he'd do for a HUEG fan like myself ;P


See, now that's some interesting stuff. It proves that Jackson and others were definitely working on the project together. What would be really interesting would be to see if Scirocco remembers the other guys on the team, and specifically, if he doesn't remember someone who is listed in the credits. I think there is a very significant chance that if Jackson wanted to leave behind some of his compositions, he would have literally given the credit to someone else and had his name inserted into the credit roll. It's not unusual for musicians to do that stuff.

Another thing this reveals is that the group working on the project was not grounded in one place. Roger Hector saying that MJ's work didn't make it in would have some clout if everyone involved had been strictly working in one studio in or nearby STI where Hector could have seen the process. If they were talking about stuff over the phone, then who is to say that Jackson couldn't have had input into any or every other composition that other team members did?

You know what I think is really sad about this? I bet Jackson was having a lot of fun writing this soundtrack. The pressure on him to produce somthing really great and cutting edge was probably lower than with his full-fledged albums, and that would have let him relax and focus on composing whatever good songs he could come up with. We see him taking the time to call people just to talk about ideas, we see him wandering around development offices just to see what is happening...he was probably pretty excited about the whole thing. Then the scandals broke out, and he got canned. Did he deserve it? Maybe. But if he didn't commit those crimes, then what happened to him was almost cruel.

Just like with the scandals, MJ himself is probably the only one who can say what really happened. I wonder, though, if MJ and/or his press people have addressed or will address this case?

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MJ's lawyers possess the only taped copy of the original music composed, Roger Hector handed that over. They have never addressed the case; we have only known about it as Roger Hector told us so.

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HXC said:

MJ's lawyers possess the only taped copy of the original music composed, Roger Hector handed that over. They have never addressed the case; we have only known about it as Roger Hector told us so.


So, his songs still remain in some form? I know we'll most likely never get ahold of that tape, but I guess it's just nice to know it exists somewhere (that is, assuming it's not been destoyed after all these years)...

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It might, it might not, I have no idea.

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Yeah I'm thinking of putting together an article all about this stuff on SRZ at some point considering I've been working really hard on that site at the moment.

Scirocco is our strongest link definatly, I really hope he still has a copy of "The Water" still. It truely is amazing this treasure trove of secres went unnoticed for over 10 years.

And yes I'm posting again DUM DUM DUUUUM.

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Cheers!!!!

I'm drunk BTW....

oh and also...for those that didn't see the similarity in that drum beat on blood on the dance floor, listen at around 1:37 and you'll hear the exact same beat.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=4DBTXKKsNxM
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View PostQjimbo, on Nov 1 2006, 05:31 PM, said:

And yes I'm posting again DUM DUM DUUUUM.

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Ithink I found what sng relates to Launch Base Zone. Listen to "the way you make me feel" at the begining and it should sound slightly like launch base zone.

http://www.youtube.c...h?v=09791ypOcZ8

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View PostTanks, on Nov 4 2006, 04:21 PM, said:

Ithink I found what sng relates to Launch Base Zone. Listen to "the way you make me feel" at the begining and it should sound slightly like launch base zone.

http://www.youtube.c...h?v=09791ypOcZ8


no, I just listened to the whole thing again, and I think the whole song kinda' sounds like launch base not just the starting.

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The song has a similar style, yes, but otherwise I see absolutely no resemblance to Launch Base. At all.

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