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#31 User is offline Kiddo Cabbusses 

Posted 18 April 2012 - 04:24 PM

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It would be a good idea to find PAL Pico pics. There's probably a good amount of Pico variants, considering Team Europe's ROM dumps have Pico games in various, different languages including French and German.

More pics of Korean-model Picos and games would be good, too.
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Gentlemen,

http://segaretro.org/Sega_Pico

this needs improvement, but I consider it "better than before"

also apparently there are 296 Japanese Pico games to make articles for. Have fun.

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Posted 19 April 2012 - 11:25 PM

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If it helps any, I've been recording Pico game ROMs and putting them on Youtube - in order of my own perceived interest, mind.



If anyone has any specific requests, feel free to toss them at me. Of course, if the ROM isn't dumped, there isn't much I can do... but aye.

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http://blog.daum.net/picoplus/10524311

#sega decided to check daum for Korean Pico stuff, found this page.

EDIT: Bunch more linkage time.

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* Kiddo googles "피코"
* Kiddo gets Boku no Pico instead of Sega Pico
<Kiddo> GODDAMNIT
<Kiddo> "Sega four products in Japan, Korea, Samsung Electronics sold in the meantime, who had many products to up grade of the rugged and beautiful again, and now the product has been transformed into"
<Kiddo> So it sounds like Samsung sold the Picos in Korea
<Kiddo> The page also talks a lot about kids with disabilities and brain damage.
<JaxTH> Didn't Samsung sell the Mega Drive in Korea too?
<JaxTH> It would make sense
<Kiddo> http://blog.daum.net...ax_history_home
<Kiddo> Oh, Korean Manual scans!
<Kiddo> http://blog.daum.net...=20120401120529 - Korean Ecco Jr.
<Kiddo> http://www.google.co...IBoPk6QH6neD7Dg - image searching
<Kiddo> http://blog.naver.co...etTypeCall=true - some Samsung Picos!
<Kiddo> So now pretty much confirmed
<Kiddo> http://fmkorea.net/humor/22358255
<Kiddo> http://blog.naver.co...No=150063518517
<Kiddo> http://itempage.auct...emno=A130926860
<Kiddo> Samsung also, more recently, sells a different, unrelated product named PICO
<Kiddo> which makes this confusing.
<Kiddo> http://clien.career....&wr_id=11156402

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Taking this no-intro post here;

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Is anybody interested in an "Megadrive -> Sega Pico"-Adapter, to dump Sega Pico Cartridges with the RETRODE?

I have to buy and destroy one PICO-Console per adapter, which cost about 50 - 60 euro's here in europe! So the adapter would cost about 90 - 100eur (without shipping)!


picture of the prototype:
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Does anyone here want to fund getting me a Retrode and this adapter?

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I hope he's not destroying decent quality Picos. >_>

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I don't want to be held responsible for Pico destruction...
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View PostOverlord, on 24 May 2012 - 01:59 PM, said:

I hope he's not destroying decent quality Picos. >_>
I suppose it may be a better idea to buy broken Picos where the cartslot still works (which would mean he'd destroy non-functional hardware anyways and ripping apart the working parts for something else).

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View PostOverlord, on 24 May 2012 - 01:59 PM, said:

I hope he's not destroying decent quality Picos. >_>


From what I recall, PAL Picos should be similar to US Picos... but eh, I'll bring this up.

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Presumably there are other methods of dumping Pico games, what with the existence of Pico game dumps. Unless those methods destroy Sega Picos too.

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View PostSik, on 24 May 2012 - 02:30 PM, said:

View PostOverlord, on 24 May 2012 - 01:59 PM, said:

I hope he's not destroying decent quality Picos. >_>
I suppose it may be a better idea to buy broken Picos where the cartslot still works (which would mean he'd destroy non-functional hardware anyways and ripping apart the working parts for something else).


Posted the concern on no-intro. Especially considering we have no PAL-region Pico hardware shots or scans, this is a very valid concern.
Trying to find alternative solutions would be nice, indeed.

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View PostBlack Squirrel, on 24 May 2012 - 02:55 PM, said:

Presumably there are other methods of dumping Pico games, what with the existence of Pico game dumps. Unless those methods destroy Sega Picos too.
If I recall correctly, yes, a cartslot from a Pico was taken to get those dumps (no idea if there are chances to put the thing back, though).

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View PostSik, on 24 May 2012 - 03:04 PM, said:

View PostBlack Squirrel, on 24 May 2012 - 02:55 PM, said:

Presumably there are other methods of dumping Pico games, what with the existence of Pico game dumps. Unless those methods destroy Sega Picos too.
If I recall correctly, yes, a cartslot from a Pico was taken to get those dumps (no idea if there are chances to put the thing back, though).


What Sik said. IIRC the previous destroyed Picos were US Models, though, which are as common and cheap to gets as Genesis consoles, so the damage was very little.

(Kinda a bummer that only, like, 2 [retail] ROMs got dumped prior to Team-Europe doing all their work.)

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Pico Soccer uses SMPS/68k!
Song list - $10588
PSG voice list - $10054
I don't know how similar coordination flags are, though $F4 appears to be the "change voice" flag (and even after dropping the voices into Sonic 1 the Sonic 1 version of the driver still didn't play the song the same way as far as volumes go...). For those who care, the entry point into the SMPS routine (which appears to be called every frame) is $10642.
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A few updates of note;

1) A new ROM dump
http://www.axifile.com/en/1AF60FEAC7
HPC-6042-00 - Game wo Shinagara Oboe You! Kantan Wakuwaku Keyboard (Japan)
Currently can't be emulated (It requires the Pico keyboard accessory).

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<andlabs> found a keyboard test mode
<andlabs> 2D8:4E71 2DA:4E71 (both)
<andlabs> there's another way to trigger it
<andlabs> but this will work until emulation is made


2) Evidence of music being lazily reused between Pico games. Check "Ken-chan to Pepe no Wanpaku Drive" and compare it's theme song to the one in Mushiking. To make this slightly stranger, Wanpaku drive is published by Sega while Mushiking Sega Toys, adding another degree of complexity between the Sega/Sega Toys relationship.

3) My Youtube has more videos - including ones I put up from NicoNicoDouga as well as ROM recordings.
I'm also monetizing a lot of my uploads. -I would appreciate it if you guys watch and let the ads run free on any of my monetized videos-. The money will probably go into trying to get more Pico games researched into.
Example;


4) ReBirFh on no-intro forums;

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I know a Brazilian collector that is selling a Tec Toy SEGA Pico (very rare here) + 5/6 games for R$ 150 (~$75) if someone is interested I can contact him.

I would like to get the Brazilian Pico Soft in Team-Europe's hands to ROM dump.
ScarredSun sent me these comparisons for Tec Toy Picos and games;
http://produto.merca...ia-descrico—_JM
http://produto.merca...ico-c-caixa-_JM

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