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Let's Glitch Sonic 3 & Knuckles (Updated November 17th, 2009) or, Sega really should have tested the 2 player Sonic/Tails gameplay.

#31 User is offline GoldS 

Posted 09 May 2009 - 09:04 AM

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I've tried that, but I can't find an FLV converter that'll save the file at 60 FPS.

EDIT: Nevermind. Found one. Uploading to youtube now, I'll see what happens.

EDIT 2: I think this is as good as it's going to get: http://www.youtube.c...h?v=-DYX1pDbSF8
This post has been edited by GoldS: 09 May 2009 - 09:38 AM

#32 User is offline Overlord 

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Hm, apparently you CAN do it. Fair enough, learn something every day =P

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Apparently Youtube can't get to 60fps.

View Posttokumaru, on May 9 2009, 02:27 AM, said:

This one appears to be running at 60fps. Definitely more than 30.
No, 30.000

View PostFlygon, on May 9 2009, 12:53 PM, said:

Youtube can do 60fps, definitely.

60fps video.
No, 29.970

View PostGoldS, on May 9 2009, 04:04 PM, said:

EDIT 2: I think this is as good as it's going to get: http://www.youtube.c...h?v=-DYX1pDbSF8
30.000, still.

Back on topic, awesome videos, GoldS. I 5'd all of them, you're doing them much better than I used to.
This post has been edited by nineko: 10 May 2009 - 07:11 AM

#34 User is offline GoldS 

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Hydrocity's up. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=us93F4qvSVQ&fmt=18

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GoldS your glitch videos are fucking incredible. Thanks for the knowledge buddy!

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Amazing! I'm still laughing at "Tails is a traitor"

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These are extremely fun to watch. Awesome job! smile.png

Incidentally, I've performed the bypass-the-boss and Super Sonic glitches several times, both intentionally and by mistake. I love doing the Super Sonic glitch because not only does it give you a free ride in terms of beating the boss, but you get to complete the level and see a glowing "SONIC" in the level results screen. :D

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QUOTE (Tweaker @ May 11 2009, 01:59 AM)
These are extremely fun to watch. Awesome job! smile.png

Incidentally, I've performed the bypass-the-boss and Super Sonic glitches several times, both intentionally and by mistake. I love doing the Super Sonic glitch because not only does it give you a free ride in terms of beating the boss, but you get to complete the level and see a glowing "SONIC" in the level results screen. :D

I've always loved that effect as well, and wondered if it could be put into a hack if the player finishes with Super Sonic instead of regular Sonic.

Great videos, GoldS. I've never encountered the sewer of Hydrocity, so that was very intresting.

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Lol, these are some cool glitches!

Never would have guessed...

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I used to do the waterfall speed up trick all the time.


Also would the jump spindash in act 2 into a waterslide halfpipe slope to get underneath it be a glitch? That's how I used to go under the "sewer" as you would state it. I state this because I few times the game "rewards" you for doing it. However, there is a part at the bottom of the regular level that has a pit with a circular watertube slope hump over it that doesn't even have spikes on the bottom, so you can access the "sewer" easy. I find that odd.

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Amazing! How do you find all these? Thought I'd seen a few you might have missed, but no, all present and correct, plus a load more. Nice smile.png

On another note. Tails, you asshole...

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No good game-testers at all for Sonic 3 & Knuckles during production! I am sure they ran out of time too. But both Tails<->Sonic link and Super Sonic can break the game too easily. Since Sonic 2 HD uses Sonic 3's moves, I have to be very cautious not to forget about these glitches. But by fixing one glitch, 20 more will be added. So it will be critical to test everyting over and over for each beta release.

Things that I didn't know:
Super transformation ignores solid platforms! <TERRIBLE>
Tails dropping Sonic off a fan in Carnival Night! <OUCH>
Sonic 3's tube spinning is not safe compared to Sonic 2's and Sonic 1's! Sonic 2 HD TD uses Sonic 3's ways and it is clearly NOT working <BAD>

The solid collisions are heavy on the Genesis CPU and Naka saved some CPU time by not activating them when a sprite is clipped. This was done in Sonic 1, and is clearly forgotten 3 games later when Super and flying moves were introduced. That's the worst part about coding games in an assembler language and hardcoding fixes that are easily forgotten later on.

For Sonic 2 HD, everything is OOP, and there is much easier to track down changes such as overloaded functions and derived objects. Also with so much CPU time, the solid platforms will not let the player pass. Still, having the choice of an unlimited speed boost for Sonic while running or falling, that will eventually crack the collision. It's gonna be fun to fight these glithces to the very end with your help of course!

Thanks for the videos!
This post has been edited by LOst: 11 May 2009 - 07:28 AM

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Starting with Hydrocity Zone, I'll include an "HQ" version of the video on Viddler. Check the first post for the link.

Note that the Viddler videos won't have annotations, but whatever.
This post has been edited by GoldS: 11 May 2009 - 07:58 AM

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QUOTE (nineko @ May 10 2009, 05:02 AM)
QUOTE (tokumaru @ May 9 2009, 02:27 AM)
This one appears to be running at 60fps. Definitely more than 30.
No, 30.000

Care to explain how you came to that conclusion? Because my video player does not agree with you. It can't give me an average fps for whatever reason, but the current fps keeps changing between 58, 64, 48 and occasionaly some lower numbers.

Also, be sure to check the low quality version. I tried the high quality one (&fmt=18) and it definitely has fewer frames per second.

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Automatic 5 stars, loved that video, especially the Tails is a Traitor one. We all know Tails has an evil side. v.png

The 'Super State but not in Super' glitch was really messed up. Nice job finding these!

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