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Special Stage Development Discussion, concepts and coding foundations

#16 User is offline Blue Streak 

Posted 22 March 2010 - 02:34 PM

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Seeing the chute with full transparency makes me wonder if we should make it semi-transparent, like colored glass. I think it might look cool. The connecting segments (the yellow parts in the above concept) should still remain opaque.

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QUOTE (Chimpo @ Mar 22 2010, 12:34 PM)
I was working on something but it looks like you guys seem to have settled on a background.

Might as well post it so I don't feel like I wasted my time.


I like the looks of this better than the others, and it's not even complete.

The colors and style seem to fit more. Really screams "Sonic" to me.
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#18 User is offline Hamneggs 

Posted 22 March 2010 - 06:54 PM

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One more try.

Changes:

Used CN's star rainbow thing (amazing work thumbsup.png ).
Took the sunrise idea into effect.
tried some strange outline thing similar to chimpo's.
Moved location of horizon a few pixels to better align with back diamonds.
And there is a cloud effect thrown in to get a day/night contrast. I think that's an idea worth running with...


And chimpo, I think we should merge.

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QUOTE (Hamneggs @ Mar 22 2010, 06:54 PM)


That is gorgeous. But I think the squares are meant to transform from solid squares in the top half to square-shaped holes in the bottom half.

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And chimpo, I think we should merge.


That's hot.

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QUOTE (Chimpo @ Mar 22 2010, 12:34 PM)
I was working on something but it looks like you guys seem to have settled on a background.

Might as well post it so I don't feel like I wasted my time.

It's really nice and cartoony looking.
My only concern is on the rough colour transitions happening there, yet it's surely a promising start.


Except CN's rainbow colours, I think that slapping whatever space.jpg all over makes it look pretty cheap for my tastes! smile.png


#21 User is offline Hamneggs 

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QUOTE (Vincent @ Mar 22 2010, 07:13 PM)
Except CN's rainbow colours, I think that slapping whatever space.jpg all over makes it look pretty cheap for my tastes! smile.png


Not to be arrogant, but what do you suggest then?


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Worked on it a bit more.



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My only concern is on the rough colour transitions happening there, yet it's surely a promising start.


I had a smooth transition gradient set up before but I tried doing the rough transitions just to see how it would come out. I personally liked the results and I'm trying to get it to get a smoother look from it.

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I have done this if somebody wants to use a real star locations. Just take a section and put some more stars in the background as there are billions that are not visible to the eye. These stars are ones that astrologist use in constellations. The blue points make up the iconic Orion's belt. The red point is a real galaxy Andromeda.

This might help as a guide from stopping the stars looking too fake and might also get rid of the cheap look of brush splatters when using a real picture.



The size of the points represents solar luminosity.

#24 User is offline Canned Karma 

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Chimpo, could you fill in that top diamond as well? It looks off in its current state with just the outline.

I'd like to see side by side comparisons of the cloud filter diamonds and Chimpo's toon styled ones as well. They both have potential, it's just a matter of seeing how appropriate they are for the stage.

#25 User is offline Hamneggs 

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QUOTE (steveswede @ Mar 22 2010, 07:48 PM)
I have done this if somebody wants to use a real star locations. Just take a section and put some more stars in the background as there are billions that are not visible to the eye. These stars are ones that astrologist use in constellations. The blue points make up the iconic Orion's belt. The red point is a real galaxy Andromeda.

This might help as a guide from stopping the stars looking too fake and might also get rid of the cheap look of brush splatters when using a real picture.



The size of the points represents solar luminosity.


I look into this, but here's what I have now.

Changes:
Modified use of CN's submitted image.
Removed the cloud effect.
Added back some of the stars from earlier iterations (on the sides)
Made the bottom diamonds more hole-like.
Stronger blue.


And Chimpo, I think we should combine assets...



#26 User is offline Chimpo 

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QUOTE (Canned Karma @ Mar 22 2010, 07:27 PM)
Chimpo, could you fill in that top diamond as well? It looks off in its current state with just the outline.




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QUOTE (Vincent @ Mar 22 2010, 08:13 PM)
Except CN's rainbow colours, I think that slapping whatever space.jpg all over makes it look pretty cheap for my tastes! smile.png

Hey now, I made that image from scratch, including all of the stars wink.png.

But really, my suggestion for that image would be to darken the background stars and add brighter stars all around as well. It's basically what I did for my avatar. Here is my image without the rainbow colors, if you guys would rather have that instead so you can add your own effects if you want.



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Personally I think it's too early to start merging things. As they're still just at the "mock up" stage, it's helpful to have them both going in different directions. That way it's easier to see what works and what doesn't. Like working on a logo for instance. You'll never just work on one idea. You'll explore a range of possibilities. So I think it's good to have two separate minds working on two totally separate versions.

Would it be worth adjusting the colour of the sky (or whatever you call it) a bit for certain stages (just adjust the hue)?



Or would that be a stretch too far (from the original game)?

I really like steveswede's sky. Too many stars all over the screen is a bit overwhelming. Need some negative space to keep the balance.
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#29 User is offline Hamneggs 

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QUOTE (Cerulean Nights @ Mar 22 2010, 08:40 PM)
But really, my suggestion for that image would be to darken the background stars and add brighter stars all around as well. It's basically what I did for my avatar.


Done.

Changes:
Darkened CN's stars in the background.
Added a bloomed version of Steveswede's sky, tiled.
Minor alpha changes.


And I like your gradients quite a bit Chimpo. The pink bothers me though. If you wouldn't mind...

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I'm liking this semi transparent half pipe with the different style of backgrounds. This is something I would love to see put in the game as well.

@Hamneggs

It's looking better. It's just those tiles that need working on as they just don't stand out.


I'm liking Chimpo's. It's a good twist on the tiles.

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