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Archie Sonic Comic Megathread IDW will start publishing in 2018

#3046 User is offline HEDGESMFG 

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Again, I'm going to wait to see what the stories are like before I jump to any conclusions. If Bunnie/Sally/Ant/Rotor/Snively, ect. are gone for good, so be it. The old soft reboot kind of made that entire storyline pointless anyway. It's just a shame that no true ending was ever given to us, but such is the case with so many western-styeld properties anyway.

But yeah, they also can't just do a strict game adaptation format because those are pretty boring. I mean, something more in line with what the MegaMan comic was doing would work (flesh out the game canon AND fill in the gaps while keeping fairly close to the source), but even THEN they had a lot more characters in that franchise to choose from, what with each robot master technically being a unique character.

We shall see. Archie Sonic, while still enjoyable, was pretty much on life support anyway after the Penders affair.

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I actually wouldnt mind re-adaptations of stories from Archie past headed/written by Flynn, as if they're his material, I think they'd be fair game if he was interested in using character types and settings from his old work to flesh out a new world. Iirc the legal issues with Archie involved the use of stories and characters created by ex-Archie staff, however I don't think anything created / written by Flynn and Yardley is off limits. Penders never made his traitor character get posessed by a wizard and serve as a surrogate body, Flynn just made Geoferry do that. That plot is *his* if you replace that character with anything else.

Of course itd be best if they were strictly adaptations and not re-writes entirely specifically to incentivize readers to keep buying the comics. Thing is there was nothing inherently wrong about the comic series under Flynn's pen pre-reboot, save specifically for the character and backstory liscences. The world created and the direction it was going was actually quite engaging, and had nice substance to it. I feel adapting those stories would make for a good backbone to what the series could be instead of haphazardly trying to tell the story of Unleashed while also being not-SatAM and dealing with re-establishing crap consistently; this could be a time to shead baggage and do good with old material.


......Thaaaaat said the stories are probably owned exclusively by Archie / under a liscencing hell of their own so unless Archie capsizes thats probably not possible. Capitalism everybody :specialed:

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It's good to see Sonic comics aren't dead. In all honesty my dream comic is one that finishes Genesis of a hero, bridges the gap between that and 252verse (via game adaptations + major archie events) and then continues off of that. Of course I don't see that happening, so the most I can hope for is to just pick up where we left off. I really don't want to lose the SatAM/extended Archie cast, I really like them. I don't want a whole new "game stuff only" comic, it just feels limiting, especially since the games' stories are usually big piles of shit.

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I never got into the comics. How faithful was Archie Sonic to the games' plots and characterizations in the latest reboot? I imagine if the plots of the new comic line feel like those of the games in spirit (particularly the games from Adventure to Unleashed, sans Shadow, '06, and Chronicles), much like how the Sonic OVA (which I wouldn't mind seeing expanded upon) did with the classic games, there's a chance I may pick it up.

Before I heard about Ian Flynn rebooting the story to remove certain elements and adapting the games' plots, I was always scared off by how un-Sonic-y it seemed. I was never much of a SatAM fan nor did I care for its premise and I disliked the character designs until they started looking like they wouldn't be out of place in the games, so basing a continuity off of that was a huge deterrence. Not to mention... well, everything I learned about Ken Penders. Another factor was archive panic, which I experience with practically any long running series.

If I had actually picked up Worlds Collide when it was still running, I would have probably gotten into Archie Sonic as a result. I was hearing good things about it and the classic series Mega Man comic. Being a huge Mega Man fan as well, I was interested in checking it out. Unfortunately, I'm not much of a comic reader, so I kept putting it off and then Mega Man got cancelled, so I lost any desire to get invested. I also hesitated because the existence of SatAM elements was still pretty off putting and, honestly, as cool as an Eggman/Wily team up sounded, I can't say I felt the same about a Sonic/Mega Man team up.

Recently, I considered getting invested in the beautifully drawn Sonic Mega Drive series... which turned out to be on hiatus and then ultimately cancelled. I might buy it anyway, just to see if I enjoy the writing as much as the art.

Anyway, part of me feels like I've been unfair to both the comic and SatAM characters due to my bias against SatAM itself, so even though I have no attachment to either, I still feel a bit bad about the comic's cancellation and the characters' likely exclusion from the next continuity.

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Post reboot the comic was pretty faithful to the games they covered, but they took creative liberties to tie the games into existing media and a cohesive world. Unleashed was the overarching plot, but mixed in you get sonic the fighters integrated into a casino tournament run by Breezie, an Aosth character who's backstory was changed to have her (and Scratch, Grounder, and Coconuts) integrated into Sonic 2 GGs plot. Tails sky patrol and Heroes were also integrated into backstory.

Genesis of a Hero was meant to cover the original games in a universe that coincided with SatAM characters and it worked pretty well. Robotnik had Snively as a lacky and they were still trying to save the kingdom of acorn, but it existed on South Island and the plots made sense when combined with the games (unfortunately the comic was cancelled right before they got to S3K). Flynn did an excellent job taking a bunch of incoherent nonsense and crafting it into a story and world that made sense while still being faithful to all the media it was influenced by.
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The best way, IMO, is if they start straight from Sonic 1 and build the lore from there. Don't do the whole 1 issue game adaption, fully flesh out Sonic 1 and the events using South Island as a backdrop for original stories as well, move onto Sonic 2, rinse and repeat. It would be nice if the Freedom Fighters come back, it is possible... IIRC IDW initially just picked up TMNT where Archie left off, didn't they?

One thing is for sure, MLPxSonic crossover is inevitable now. :v:/>
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View PostShaddy the guy, on Yesterday, 01:17 AM, said:

It's good to see Sonic comics aren't dead. In all honesty my dream comic is one that finishes Genesis of a hero, bridges the gap between that and 252verse (via game adaptations + major archie events) and then continues off of that. Of course I don't see that happening, so the most I can hope for is to just pick up where we left off. I really don't want to lose the SatAM/extended Archie cast, I really like them. I don't want a whole new "game stuff only" comic, it just feels limiting, especially since the games' stories are usually big piles of shit.


Same. I'm cautiously optimistic that Ian will be able to bring the SatAM cast along with his cast. I'd even stomach yet another reboot as long as Ian's characters remain (I really liked the past couple of Sonic Universe issues, it would suck if all those heroes and villains are gone).

My dream scenario is that IDW just slaps their logo in place of Archie's on the covers of the remaining unreleased issues. Emphasize on it being a dream, since I know this is extremely unlikely. :(

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If this is legit, I think you and I are going to get along just fine, IDW.
EDIT: Nevermind, it's fake, should have expected that. Ah well. :V
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Just so you all know, these are the publications that IDW do and/or have done in the past

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View PostOkamikurainya, on Yesterday, 04:30 AM, said:

IIRC IDW initially just picked up TMNT where Archie left off, didn't they?


Nope, IDW started within their own continuity with a rather out-there take on the TMNT origins and many of the plot arcs only make sense within that continuity.

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View PostDark Sonic, on 21 July 2017 - 07:47 PM, said:

Ya we can probably start a new thread later. Once we start getting solicits for the IDW comics, or any concrete news outside of "comics are coming," then we can start a new thread.

For now this one serves as a good transition topic, a memorial of the old and a celebration/speculation of the new.

(For what it's worth, this is what we're going to be doing.)

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View PostKiddo Cabbusses, on Yesterday, 12:37 PM, said:

View PostOkamikurainya, on Yesterday, 04:30 AM, said:

IIRC IDW initially just picked up TMNT where Archie left off, didn't they?


Nope, IDW started within their own continuity with a rather out-there take on the TMNT origins and many of the plot arcs only make sense within that continuity.

This makes no sense. Yes, IDW TMNT is it's own continuity, but calling it out there is not true. Also, yeah, of course it only makes sense within that continuity. They're new interpretations. What do you expect?

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