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#2836 User is offline Syn 

Posted 19 April 2017 - 09:40 PM

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View PostGlaber, on 19 April 2017 - 08:17 PM, said:

So I guess this means the end of the Freedom fighters now? I wonder if this could leed to certain fans bugging for them to be brought into the games even more as a result.
(Sega are the Owners of the original Freedom Fighters after all.)


Yeah but Sega like to keep all the different Sonic licenses in different baskets. The only thing they cross over anymore is the merch.

Sadly too, if the comic book license does go to another publisher, they most likely will want to start fresh and make their own book and not continue what's already there. So whoever would get it could say, "no Freedom Fighters".
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Would Sega's licensing department rep Alex (who on the Twitch streams seems to have the nickname Alex Kidd) have a more definitive answer? He answers questions sometimes.

The dearth of mainline Sonic media releases in the 25th anniversary left Overdrive and Genesis of a Hero at the top of the molehill of actual content. If they want to can it, just be done with it already. This back and forth is nuts.

#2838 User is offline Syn 

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View PostJason, on 19 April 2017 - 09:57 PM, said:

Would Sega's licensing department rep Alex (who on the Twitch streams seems to have the nickname Alex Kidd) have a more definitive answer? He answers questions sometimes.


I can't really say since the chat for their twitch and YouTube go by fast and they just pick random questions. If he had a Twitter, you could ask him there personally, but idk if he does. Best thing to do is just sit and wait till the e-mail comes out.

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If 290 'is' the last issue ever, it is amusing named "Sonic's Cease and Desist".

I honestly thought we'd get a final story arc someday that wrapped up the saga, but then again, considering the genesis reboot... it didn't really matter anymore anyway.

Let whatever company wants to pick this up pick it up, or don't. It'd be a shame, but Sonic can survive without a comic if it must.

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There's still a lot of value in a Sonic comic, I believe. Sonic was what, the second-longest running licensed comic of all time? Top 5 definitely. I seriously doubt sales were ever an issue either.

Ultimately, I think that both Archie and Sega decided that it just wasn't worth the legal hassle Penders started and other previous creators are perpetuating. It's a liability for both parties at this point.

Give it to IDW, bring Flynn, Hesse and Yardley along with it. Give some new talent a shot at it too.

Start fresh. No more hold-overs from the bygone era of SatAM. No ties that will eventually force the series to have to reboot itself every couple of years. I don't even care if it's classic or modern; I just want to see a new era start from scratch without all the baggage that comes with continuing a 24 year comic is saddled with so they can flesh out a new, consistent world that can be built on, maybe even create something the games themselves can start to build off of (farfetched as that seems).

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second? who was the first?

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View PostGlaber, on 21 April 2017 - 01:40 AM, said:

second? who was the first?


I think it used to be G.I. Joe, but actually I googled it really quickly and it looks like Sonic actually took the record? My bad. Probably need to corroborate that, but yeah.
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View PostTheKazeblade, on 21 April 2017 - 12:15 AM, said:

Start fresh. No more hold-overs from the bygone era of SatAM. No ties that will eventually force the series to have to reboot itself every couple of years. I don't even care if it's classic or modern; I just want to see a new era start from scratch without all the baggage that comes with continuing a 24 year comic is saddled with so they can flesh out a new, consistent world that can be built on, maybe even create something the games themselves can start to build off of (farfetched as that seems).


First, what? The comic has had only 1 reboot ever.

Second, the reboot was just that, a fresh start without any baggage hell it would've had a "#001" rebranding too if it wasn't for the fucking last editor and his fixation on the comic number count.

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View PostLanzer, on 21 April 2017 - 09:52 AM, said:

View PostTheKazeblade, on 21 April 2017 - 12:15 AM, said:

Start fresh. No more hold-overs from the bygone era of SatAM. No ties that will eventually force the series to have to reboot itself every couple of years. I don't even care if it's classic or modern; I just want to see a new era start from scratch without all the baggage that comes with continuing a 24 year comic is saddled with so they can flesh out a new, consistent world that can be built on, maybe even create something the games themselves can start to build off of (farfetched as that seems).


First, what? The comic has had only 1 reboot ever.

Second, the reboot was just that, a fresh start without any baggage hell it would've had a "#001" rebranding too if it wasn't for the fucking last editor and his fixation on the comic number count.


He didn't say it had more than one more reboot, he said to get rid of the old baggage that might force another reboot or cancellation due to legal problems.

And to say that after the reboot there was no baggage it's not seeing the obvious. Pretty much every SatAM element and old elements from the old comic was baggage.

While one of the faults of the World Adventure arc was its length, another one was having to set up the old SatAM elements along with the new ones.The reboot felt fresh for a bit, but it quickly got stale.

I've been reading the comic since the beginning so I know of its SatAM roots. But it was apparent during the Adventure arc way back in '99 that those elements were redundant.

So put me in the group that really wants a brand new start if another publisher gets the comic license.

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Even in the reboot the SatAM characters felt kinda useless. Like they were just there for either plot devices or to narrate. Then they just went on and made new characters anyway. I feel like the new universe didn't make sense for the Freedom Fighters, even with the redesigns. Maybe the newer issues that were supposed to come that focused on them would have helped settle them in the new universe a bit, but for the time being idk.

A shame though, I will miss Snively and I loved his inclusion in the Genesis of a Hero arc. I particularly liked how in this universe, Snively was piloting the Eggrobo that fought against Knuckles in Sonic 3K. Was that particular eggrobo ever really explained? It's just one random robot fucking around with Knuckles that was for some reason granted access to the Eggmobile.

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View PostTheKazeblade, on 21 April 2017 - 12:15 AM, said:

There's still a lot of value in a Sonic comic, I believe. Sonic was what, the second-longest running licensed comic of all time? Top 5 definitely. I seriously doubt sales were ever an issue either.

Ultimately, I think that both Archie and Sega decided that it just wasn't worth the legal hassle Penders started and other previous creators are perpetuating. It's a liability for both parties at this point.

Give it to IDW, bring Flynn, Hesse and Yardley along with it. Give some new talent a shot at it too.

Start fresh. No more hold-overs from the bygone era of SatAM. No ties that will eventually force the series to have to reboot itself every couple of years. I don't even care if it's classic or modern; I just want to see a new era start from scratch without all the baggage that comes with continuing a 24 year comic is saddled with so they can flesh out a new, consistent world that can be built on, maybe even create something the games themselves can start to build off of (farfetched as that seems).


End the story and then I'm with you. But a 290-issue run without anything resembling a decent ending is horrible.

Sonic was my first comic, I followed it for years and years before taking a long hiatus. When Flynn's editorially mandated reboot to get rid of the Penders characters happened I used that as a jumping on point. I like this comic baggage and all. I want it to have an ending, a proper one, before I will contemplate a reboot comic. That is all.
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#2847 User is online Dark Sonic 

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View Postrebelcheese, on 21 April 2017 - 01:39 PM, said:

End the story and then I'm with you. But a 290-issue run without anything resembling a decent ending is horrible.

Sonic was my first comic, I followed it for years and years before taking a long hiatus. When Flynn's editorially mandated reboot to get rid of the Penders characters happened I used that as a jumping on point. I like this comic baggage and all. I want it to have an ending, a proper one, before I will contemplate a reboot comic. That is all.

It kinda had an ending. The ending of the Unleashed arc was pretty much the ending. Like, 90% of the story was wrapped up, everything was at peace, and the only things we didn't know were what was Snively up to and what was Eclipse up to. Other than that, Robotnik lost, the planet came back together, and the big bad was gone. Then we had an irrelevant Chaotix arc and 3/4 issues of revisiting the classic games.

Despite the cancellation being abrupt, and despite not publishing 1 issue of the Classic story or the other issue of Mega Drive, I'd say this is the closest this comic has ever had to a proper conclusion. But it would be rather unfortunate to have the world that was built over all those issues be tossed.

I think that was the major problem with the Unleashed arc too. It was so drawn out because he had to do so much world building, but it couldn't be done in an organic way like Megaman starting from Megaman 1. In this universe it all happened and they were in the middle of it. What's the world though, who's that, why are they here, etc etc. All the stuff that was already established had to be reexplained. Honestly if there was a new comic, it'd almost make more sense to start over completely and just go back to Sonic 1. Build the world as it comes through the story naturally, don't just shove the world down people's throats while 8 other things are happening. There were so many flashbacks.

Like I would have loved to see the story of Sonic 2 GG and Tails Sky Patrol play out. Sonic fights the AoSTH badniks in Sonic 2 and has to deal with Breezie, then once he rescues Tails Naugus shows up and freezes Sonic and Robotnik which then rolls into Tails having to save them in Tails SkyPatrol. That was great. Too bad it was only told via flashbacks.
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Yep, that's the closest the comic might get to an ending. I hardly doubt that if they do decide to publish up to 300 and get a final ending that it's going to be Sonic finally beating Eggman for real and marrying Sally.

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