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Sega of Japan's Catalogue System

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  1. Black Squirrel

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    but I think there may be a few exceptions to the rule
     
  2. Meat Miracle

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    Yeah, I have most of the Saturn stuff thanks to madroms' database, though it only lists stuff on the CDs, so no codes for booklets. Your other copy of DBZ Legends is the Spanish copy, which is actually a copy of the french release with different covers. (the "made in" part only tells where the disc was manufactured, not which country release it is)

    The serial prefixes I have are:
    -05 = U.K.
    -06 = Spain
    -07 = generic Asia
    -08 = Korea
    -09 = France
    -11 = China (FREETRON CO.)
    -13 = Italy (Megadrive)
    -16 = China (ACER TWP CORP.)
    -18 = Germany
    -20 = Netherlands
    -40 = China (Megadrive)
    -45 = Brazil
    -46 = Portugal
    -50 = generic PAL
    -51 = Italy (Saturn)
    -55 = Netherlands
    -78 = generic Scandinavia

    Italy, Netherlands and China appear multiple times, apparently due to having different publishers?
    -07 I only saw on certain hardware models.
    Also, most of these numbers are used throughout every console lifecycle - I've seen -18 used for Germany in Megadrive, Saturn AND Dreamcast titles.

    Also, I've seen -01, -02, etc used for demo discs, up to at least -32 (Flash Segasaturn vol.32). Also, it was used on some hardware too (670-5648-01 to -04, all of them model 1 japanese saturns from different manufacturers).
     
  3. Andlabs

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  4. Meat Miracle

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    Hahaha, smart.
    It looks like the MD roms mainly used the extra numbers for alt versions, not alt regions, with a few minor exceptions (-50 and -45). However, Megadrive games still used the actual region suffix on the boxes themselves, for example Tojam & Earl 2 german version still has the -18 on the box, but not in the game rom.
     
  5. 0r4ng3

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    Info dump.

    Code (Text):
    1. SATURN PAL
    2. MANUAL      CD           PACK         NAME
    3. 672-3024-50 670-8175-50  670-8176-50  BAKU
    4. 672-2577-50 670-6960-50  670-6961.50  DAYTONA
    5. 672-4145-06 670-9764-06  670-9765-50  DBZ
    6. 672-4473-50 670-10861-50 670-10862-50 FIGHTERS MEGAMIX
    7. 672-3706-50 670-8406-50  670-8407-50  NIGHTS
    8. 672-3786-50 670-8660-50  670-8661-50  PANZER II
    9. 710-0004-50 -----------  740-0003-50  PANZER SAGA
    10. *CD1 - 700-0008-50, CD2 - 700-0009-50, CD3 - 700-00010-50, CD1 - 700-0011-50
    11. 672-2966-50 670-8012-50  670-8013-50  SEGA RALLY
    12. ???-????-?? 670-10980-50 670-10981-50 SHINING HOLY ARK
    13. 710-0009-50 700-0023-50  720-0015-50  SHINING FORCE 3
    14. 672-4306-50 670-10308-50 670-10309-50 SONIC 3D
    15. 672-4558-50 670-11199-50 670-11200-50 SONIC JAM
    16. 672-4181-50 670-9875-50  670-9876-50  SUPER PUZZLE FIGHTER II TURBO
    17. 672-3859-50 670-8896-50  670-8897-50  TETRIS
    18. 672-4562-50 670-11208-50 670-11209-50 TOURING CAR
    19. ----------- 670-6958-50  -----------  VIRTUA FIGHTER (CD CASE V.)
    20. 672-4039-50 670-9453-50  670-9454-50  WORLWIDE SOCCER 97
    21. 672-4532-50 670-11095-50 670-11096-50 WORLWIDE SOCCER 98
    I can't find the manual for the Holy Ark. I could swear I had Panzer I over here too. :ohdear:

    I have around the same number of DC games over here. I'll post them later.
     
  6. Meat Miracle

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    Goddamn you have the outer cover too for panzer dragoon saga? I'm missing that.
     
  7. Black Squirrel

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    I have, but all covers are considerably battered, so it's nothing worth drooling for. I got it very recently, through a friend abroad that was getting rid of his collection, and I believe it's the UK version. I'd pay loads for the complete PT version, but I never seen one listed anywhere. I can't recall ever seeing it on the stands and it's an astonishing cover, so there is really no excuse as to why I didn't see it or buy it back in the day besides never crossing paths with it.
     
  9. doc eggfan

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    NAOMI Service Manual (English) - 420-6455-01
    Battery for NAOMI - 401-0054 (CR2032/1F Matsushita)
    Sega I/O Board for NAOMI ver 1.04 - 838-18683

    SK-1100 keyboard - 623443?
     
  10. Black Squirrel

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    Bumped for good reason
    http://segaretro.org/Region_Codes

    I've documented region codes for most of the rest of the world - the ones found in this topic, and some others I've run into. There's some big gaps.

    Really this should probably reflect all the details regarding manuals and boxes and cartridges but that's not my area of expertise.
     
  11. Hivebrain

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    -40 is Asia for Mega Drive games.
     
  12. Andlabs

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    I don't see T-19 in my MD ROM headers nor on any Japanese Tecnosoft box:

    So where does the T-19 come from?

    (maybe a grand unified list of serial numbers would be nice)
     
  13. Black Squirrel

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    I would love a list which just listed every single Sega serial number in the history of the company

    but I am not going to maintain that by hand, and neither should anyone else. We need a way of extracting that data from bob/release templates and generating the list automatically. Same with lots of things.
     
  14. Sik

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    A quick script can handle generating a list easily, you'd just need a copy of all the relevant ROMs (I.e. feel free to exclude pirate crap that has no valid headers). Then the script could read the headers of all the ROMs and extract the serial numbers.
     
  15. Meat Miracle

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    You would have to add tens of thousands of entries by hand to a unified serial list, depending on how far you are willing to go with it - pcbs, icbs, roms, cpus, covers, manuals, printouts, game code, all have their own serial number. Hell, even the RF heatsink on the Megadrive has its own serial.
     
  16. Sik

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    I think we're talking exclusively about company codes in games though.
     
  17. Meat Miracle

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    Well that would be a start.
     
  18. BSonirachi

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    Codemasters would be T-120 according to the PAL version of Micro Machines 2 on Mega Drive (T-120096-50).

    EDIT: And T-93 might be Sony Imagesoft according to the PAL MD version of Mickey Mania (T-93216-50).
     
  19. Andlabs

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    Thanks; it looks like we have those two - http://segaretro.org/Third-Party_T-Series_Codes

    Don't we have DynamicPageList for collecting all the serial numbers? We have Template:Releases...

    still wondering about T-19
     
  20. Black Squirrel

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    The world is bigger than the Mega Drive - I don't even know if games for other consoles store T-series numbers in code.

    The information we want will (in theory) be stored on individual pages by the time we're done - it's just the process of getting Mediawiki to scan through and compile a list of its own which is the tricky part. It can be done, it just hasn't been... yet. Partly because DynamicPageList doesn't work properly on Sega Retro (or at least didn't last time I checked)

    Point is there should be no copying and pasting lists of games, then trying to construct tables out of it, then adding every piece of information by hand - it would take months.