[MegaDash]

There's a world of difference between putting a rehash GHZ boss in a rehash GHZ level (lookin' at you, Splash Hill), and putting fucking Metal Sonic in the Egg-o-matic in the middle of a brand new Zone. Please don't conflate Dimps' lack of originality with S3&K's huge amount of face-fucking awesomeness.

Quote of the day right there. I don't even care about Sonic 4's criticism, I'm just all in favor of face-fucking awesomeness. That's going in my sig.

Also, what Aquaslash said: It's a "Best Of" introduction to the rest of Sonic 4, which'll be like two or three more episodes. Get over it.

One thing I probably won't get over is the price, though. $15? Really, SEGA? I don't fucking think so. I'm hard pressed to find a WiiWare game that costs more than 1,000 Wii points, and the ones I did were Cave Story and Sin & Punishment at 1,200 points, and Final Fantasy CC: My Life as a King and World of Goo for 1,500 points.

Okay, it's not unheard of, but it's rare. I'll pay for it, but it better be fucking good.

[HarrisonJ]

...The fuck?

Why are we talking about Donkey Kong?

[MegaDash]

Why are you prolonging it?

Technically it's my fault, but I refuse to be blamed for the thread's propensity towards argumentative tangents. I was giving my honest two cents, and we're already about 5 pages ahead.

[serpx]

There's a world of difference between putting a rehash GHZ boss in a rehash GHZ level (lookin' at you, Splash Hill), and putting fucking Metal Sonic in the Egg-o-matic in the middle of a brand new Zone. Please don't conflate Dimps' lack of originality with S3&K's huge amount of face-fucking awesomeness.

Quote of the day right there. I don't even care about Sonic 4's criticism, I'm just all in favor of face-fucking awesomeness. That's going in my sig.

Also, what Aquaslash said: It's a "Best Of" introduction to the rest of Sonic 4, which'll be like two or three more episodes. Get over it.

One thing I probably won't get over is the price, though. $15? Really, SEGA? I don't fucking think so. I'm hard pressed to find a WiiWare game that costs more than 1,000 Wii points, and the ones I did were Cave Story and Sin & Punishment at 1,200 points, and Final Fantasy CC: My Life as a King and World of Goo for 1,500 points.

Okay, it's not unheard of, but it's rare. I'll pay for it, but it better be fucking good.

15 dollars is cheap as fuck for a new 2D Sonic game. Of course, value is subjective, but I'm amazed at how many people find 15 dollars too much for Sonic 4. Of course, unless it's actually a shitty game, then I can easily understand.

[Patback]

There's a world of difference between putting a rehash GHZ boss in a rehash GHZ level (lookin' at you, Splash Hill), and putting fucking Metal Sonic in the Egg-o-matic in the middle of a brand new Zone. Please don't conflate Dimps' lack of originality with S3&K's huge amount of face-fucking awesomeness.

Quote of the day right there. I don't even care about Sonic 4's criticism, I'm just all in favor of face-fucking awesomeness. That's going in my sig.

Also, what Aquaslash said: It's a "Best Of" introduction to the rest of Sonic 4, which'll be like two or three more episodes. Get over it.

One thing I probably won't get over is the price, though. $15? Really, SEGA? I don't fucking think so. I'm hard pressed to find a WiiWare game that costs more than 1,000 Wii points, and the ones I did were Cave Story and Sin & Punishment at 1,200 points, and Final Fantasy CC: My Life as a King and World of Goo for 1,500 points.

Okay, it's not unheard of, but it's rare. I'll pay for it, but it better be fucking good.

15 dollars is cheap as fuck for a new 2D Sonic game. Of course, value is subjective, but I'm amazed at how many people find 15 dollars too much for Sonic 4. Of course, unless it's actually a shitty game, then I can easily understand.

My understanding is that it's 15 dollars for Episode 1. If so, then yeah, that's EXTREMELY expensive. If it's for everything, then I don't have a problem with it.

[serpx]

My understanding is that it's 15 dollars for Episode 1. If so, then yeah, that's EXTREMELY expensive. If it's for everything, then I don't have a problem with it.

Though, is it not around the same length as the original Sonic games? The Sonic Advance 2 games are retailing for 20+ dollars. Haven't played them in quite a few, but are they that much longer? I think the episodic ordeal is giving people the illusion that they're not getting a full game, when in reality, they are. It's the story that comes in episodes, such as with Sonic 3 and Knuckles. Should Sonic 3 have retailed for 10-15 dollars, because it was some kind of half game?

This post has been edited by serpx: 26 September 2010 - 01:25 AM

[Solaris Paradox]

15 dollars is cheap as fuck for a new 2D Sonic game. Of course, value is subjective, but I'm amazed at how many people find 15 dollars too much for Sonic 4. Of course, unless it's actually a shitty game, then I can easily understand.

$15 would be cheap enough for a new 2D Sonic game in the classic style with all the physics and stuff done right, even at four zones. When you consider the physics being what they are and the zones and bosses all taking the "best of" route rather than trying to be new, it's easy to be skeptical of the price. To be fair, I could take the "best of" thing if the physics were right and still not complain about a $15 price tag at all; but without those physics, the inevitable quality drop makes it hard for me to say that $15 is a fitting price.

[Blue Blood]

The only S3 things in E1 are Batbot and Bubbles, and both are there to fill gaps that other enemies simply couldn't.

Yeah, like being homing attack fodder.

Yeah, exactly... I didn't say they were used well.

Anyway, a scan has surfaced. It also has the first official snap of Mad Gear. The previewer cites some off physics too.

This post has been edited by Blue Blood: 26 September 2010 - 05:24 AM

[GeneHF]

Eh... $15 is a bit steep, especially for a download only title. $10 would have been a sweeter spot.

Now, there's been insider rumblings that Sonic 4 will be three to four parts long, meaning it's $45-$60 if the pricing trend continues. At that point, despite the argument of "side-scrollers aren't valuable enough for discs" (complete bull, really,) they may as well just slap all four parts together and break out disc releases on all three main consoles.

"Oh, come on, it's $5, man. Stop being so cheap."

I work pretty hard for my money, and I'm sure most other people do, so "just $5" is quite a bit when I have other expenses to consider, like gasoline or nourishment. Sorry I can't have mommy and daddy buy everything for me.

Eh... guess I'll be giving this a pass until the eventual temporary price drop or pass entirely if a physical copy is confirmed to be in the works. I'd definitely swing for that.

[Blue Blood]

$15 equates to £9.50 approximately, so it's basically £10 for Brits. I don't think that's a bad price really. It's on the higher end of acceptable, but eh.

[Ell678]

Anyway, a scan has surfaced. It also has the first official snap of Mad Gear. The previewer cites some off physics too.

I'm a little confused as to why the reticule in that shot is aiming at the monitor behind a wall, not Bubbles which is right in front of Sonic.

[Namo]

Anyway, a scan has surfaced. It also has the first official snap of Mad Gear. The previewer cites some off physics too.

I'm a little confused as to why the reticule in that shot is aiming at the monitor behind a wall, not Bubbles which is right in front of Sonic.

I think it's because, relatively as Sonic approaches the spring he bounced off of, that the monitor is closer than bubbles is and he locked on to the monitor first despite it being behind a wall. Which worries me a little.

This post has been edited by Namo: 26 September 2010 - 06:58 AM

[Jen]

Anyway, a scan has surfaced. It also has the first official snap of Mad Gear. The previewer cites some off physics too.

I'm a little confused as to why the reticule in that shot is aiming at the monitor behind a wall, not Bubbles which is right in front of Sonic.

Wow, that's crazy; I don't get how the homing attack's working if it can sometimes target things that are further away from Sonic as opposed to what's right in front of his face. I could see that potentially being a bit problematic in some situations. I don't recall noticing that when I played it at SoS though (but then again, I don't recall actually using the homing attack at all so I don't think I payed too much attention to what was being targeted...).

It's interesting that the reviewer says that the "physics feel a bit off, the music isn't as catchy, and it lacks the charm of Sonic's pot-bellied days". So, it's not just us die-hard classic fans who are picking these faults with the game after all; if more reviewers (and other people aside from us) say these things too, then I sincerely hope these things wil be addressed in Episode 2 (because, as we've said all along, they're clearly valid complaints and not things that just a group of people online are moaning about it) - even if just the physics! I enjoyed what I played at SoS to an extent, but it could (and, indeed, should) have been so much better.

[Sonica]

$15 equates to £9.50 approximately, so it's basically £10 for Brits. I don't think that's a bad price really. It's on the higher end of acceptable, but eh.

I'm fine with the price, even at £20 I'd still get it. =P
I vwant it so bad.

This post has been edited by Sonica: 26 September 2010 - 07:35 AM

[Flare]

£10 for a incomplete game with crap physics! Well Sonic the hedgehog (XBOX 360) cost me like £40, so I have no big problem with it.