[Tylinos]

Hate to burst the bubble on the whole second killing spree thing, but unless he does it in a way like "OH NO EGGMAN KILLED THAT ONE GUY!" without showing it or naming the characters, he probably wouldn't even be able to do it. Even if they tried something like paying royalties to Ken for an issue just to kill characters off without having to do it like that, Ken would probably say no because, you know, he wouldn't be pleased at more of his characters being killed.

On another note, one of Ken's fans is posting Ken quotes to imply that Ken won't be replying to any of the stuff he ignored earlier because of the trial. Despite most of these things being continuations of things Ken discussed just fine a day or two ago, such as the "What do the Echidnas count as?" thing.

[Lanzer]

So if he does win, were going to see a "I have to go now, my planet needs me" kind of write off huh?

[AuroraRedwinters]

Isn't it about time to show more character "art"? I had a bad day at work today and need a good laugh.

[Tylinos]

Lanzer, on 09 January 2012 - 07:13 PM, said:

So if he does win, were going to see a "I have to go now, my planet needs me" kind of write off huh?

"Note: The Echidnas died on the way back to their home planet."

Speaking of which, I'd actually find it kind of hillarious if a judge ended up ruling that neither Archie/Sega nor Ken could use any of the Echidnas in particular by saying Ken was right with the copyrights but Sega was right that they're directly related to Sega properties and infringe on Sega's own rights. Ken will have won his precious copyrights, be he'd be unable to do anything with them.

[TheKazeblade]

Do we have a known trial date, or did I just miss its mention?

[Tylinos]

Last I heard, it starts January 30th.

[Frozen Nitrogen]

Tylinos, on 09 January 2012 - 07:39 PM, said:

Last I heard, it starts January 30th.

This is the first time I have ever been interested in any aspect of the legal process.

I echo Aquaslash's thoughts. This is sad and embarrasing and depressing, to see the man who - whatever the issues' flaws - once entertained one and all fleshing out the Sonic universe, now end up throwing his career into the legal woodchipper out of... spite? Jealousy? Furfaggotry for his own characters?

Sad and embarrasing and depressing and yet I can't not watch.

[Vantoggle]

Tylinos, on 09 January 2012 - 06:54 PM, said:

Hate to burst the bubble on the whole second killing spree thing, but unless he does it in a way like "OH NO EGGMAN KILLED THAT ONE GUY!" without showing it or naming the characters, he probably wouldn't even be able to do it. Even if they tried something like paying royalties to Ken for an issue just to kill characters off without having to do it like that, Ken would probably say no because, you know, he wouldn't be pleased at more of his characters being killed.

On another note, one of Ken's fans is posting Ken quotes to imply that Ken won't be replying to any of the stuff he ignored earlier because of the trial. Despite most of these things being continuations of things Ken discussed just fine a day or two ago, such as the "What do the Echidnas count as?" thing.

Makes me wonder though….how would he prefer his characters to be killed off in this comic.

A couple of issues to demonstrate how cool/important/dangerous the echidnas were and an honorable death montage, or a single panel of a burning structure they were supposedly in? He does know that the legion are a single button push away from being written out of the story by the hands of the “less superior” Eggman, right?

[Metal Man88]

I'm no expert but if what I've read is true, the comics could just pull something as crazy as the whole Roboticization/Xorda/etc thing and say some massive disaster just wiped out the entire Legion. Unless some sort of injunction is done, they could potentially pull it off before Ken "won" the trial, in this theoretical backwards world. Thus, Ken would win the war but that would come too late to prevent them from being written out the way the comic people would want them to be.

[Sir_mihael]

Wow. I must admit, it's been a few years since I've heard the name Ken Penders floating around the internet.
Perhaps he realised this and decided he needed a nice dose of drama to get him back in the celebrity spotlight.

This does remind me very much so of the 'Axl Rose trying to sue Activision over Guitar Hero III', four years after the game had been out, and was long forgotten by everyone and their mums.
http://kotaku.com/56...ash-in-its-game
Except obviously, this is a tad different since Archie and Sonic are still around and kicking.

Although I must add, why would he wait five years before trying to pull this stunt? I'm not expecting a sensible answer to that, I just find it rather amusing and baffling... That being said, I hope Ken learns a good lesson in non-douchery from all this.

[Tylinos]

If I recall, his reasoning was that he learned reprints were being made of his stories, and that the game Sonic Chronicles featured a group vaugely similiar to the Dark Legion.

[Kaosu Reido]

Very vaguely.

As in, dark body suits, happen to be Echidnas, and were in another dimension for a while vaguely.

Not a single one of his characters were used, or referenced. The entire thing was just your standard shitty Bioware plot.

[Tylinos]

And yet he sued EA and Sega for copyright infringement. I still wish I was making that up. His characters being relatives to Knuckles is not infringement at all in his eyes, but having a group vaugely similiar to his is apparently crossing the line.

[Kaosu Reido]

He claims that Sega or Archie or whoever handed them copies of the Knuckles series, and said "do this".

Which is still within their rights regardless, because Sega specifically owns everything in those comics.

[Kushami]

Really, this whole kerfluffle comes down to something like this I think:

1.) Archie/Sega had Ken sign a work-for-hire agreement. As such, under that contract, and Archie's contract, Sega would own all his creations and win this case.
2.) Archie/Sega messed up and forgot to have him sign a work-for-hire agreement. If this is the case, then Ken will likely win some amount of control over these characters.

Either way, what he's fighting over isn't even that great. As the Echidna Turns was far from amazing, and even if he were to win you'd likely not see much of a change in the current comic book.