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Sonic cd music sample discovery

#1 User is offline Snap 

Posted 20 May 2010 - 10:18 PM

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Hi all!

In the sonic cd Collision Chaos past jap or euro version, there's a sample on the song and nobody knows about this one (pretty sure).



James Brown Is Dead, a 1991 rave song from the group L.A Style is sampled in the level.



Here's the youtube I did:



That explains the ravey psychedelic ambiance sonic cd has!

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Posted 20 May 2010 - 11:07 PM

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I remain convinced.

Neat find! I guess Hataya-san and Ogata-san were seriously big time fans of dance, techno, rave and underground music.

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Posted 20 May 2010 - 11:55 PM

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more likely they just had the same stock sounds to work with

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There's minimal resemblance. That's not it.

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I played and beat Sonic CD once on shrooms and I shit you not it was almost exactly like that effect in the video. Fucking trippy.

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I really don't hear it.

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I don't really hear it.

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Posted 21 May 2010 - 01:53 AM

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You mean the orchestral hit in a dissonant key? That's hardly grounds for a comparison. They're not really similar at all.

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Yea, sorry. They are as similar as Wackey Workbench is to Michael Jackson's Jam: http://www.logotypes.se/sonic/6Ajam.wma (lol, I couldn't synch MJ perfectly)
Close style, but not the same.

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QUOTE (Tweaker @ May 20 2010, 11:53 PM)
You mean the orchestral hit in a dissonant key? That's hardly grounds for a comparison. They're not really similar at all.


Be that as it may, Knuckles' theme in Sonic 3 is clearly based on "I missed the bus"



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I don't know if this has been brought up before but there is a sample in this tune that was in one of the levels of Sonic CD. Can't remember which one though. I think it's Wacky Workbench.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qyKCBoPwbnk

It's after 52 seconds and various places after that.

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I've heard that sample in SO many songs. I'm pretty sure "James Brown Is Dead" isn't the originator of it.

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Posted 23 May 2010 - 06:07 AM

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People need to notice what is and isn't a "sample", this is just a synth sound that numerous house/rave/whatever music uses. A sample is a direct rip of something from a source. This is as much a sample as saying that a singer samples their own voice for each of their songs heh. Also, this one song alone can't be used to say it's the reason for a "ravey psychedelic ambiance" throughout the game. Heck, it's the whole game's soundtrack, which of course is influenced by all the house and dance and what have you of that time period.


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Sample: "Work that Sucker to Death" in the SCD Boss music.
Synth: This.

Not much else to it, really.

#15 User is offline SlushBox 

Posted 24 May 2010 - 10:04 PM

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They may not be exactly the same as each other, but this is indeed an effected, and somewhat low quality, sample used in the Sonic CD soundtrack. Listen carefully to the pitch shifting...

A sample is a recorded or otherwise captured sound, not necessarily a raw, unedited rip, like some here seem to be trying to say. When I make music, I create and use many different samples from my collection of tapes, but it seems that some here would quickly label these sounds as 'synths' apparently...

A synth creates sound through oscillators or through algorithmic means. The sound does not exist, so to speak, until the synthesizer is used to make it.
Synth: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yamaha_DX7

A sampler reads and plays back sound from a pre-existing recording.
Sampler: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ensoniq_Mirage

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