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Greg Martin Sonic 2 prelim (not mine) recent private sale

#1 User is offline Buyatari 

Posted 09 July 2018 - 11:17 AM

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I know you guys like seeing these things. This one is not mine (was not the buyer nor seller) but recently traded hands.

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Ooh, nice - thanks for sharing! Great to see an in-progress version of this iconic piece - one of my favourite pieces of western Sonic cover-art. Tails with skin-coloured fur is something I've not seen since those old... what were they, Burger King or McDonald's toys? Wonder if there's a connection, haha - can't remember which year those were produced.
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Wow, so cool!

Buyatari, how does one become informed when this sort of thing goes up for sale? And how/why are you in possession of so much of this artwork?

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View PostMcAleeCh, on 09 July 2018 - 11:24 AM, said:

Ooh, nice - thanks for sharing! Great to see an in-progress version of this iconic piece - one of my favourite pieces of western Sonic cover-art. Tails with skin-coloured fur is something I've not seen since those old... what were they, Burger King or McDonald's toys? Wonder if there's a connection, haha - can't remember which year those were produced.

Not the Sonic christmas crackers figurines? Tails had flesh-coloured fur in the prototype shot of those.

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View PostVectorCNC, on 09 July 2018 - 12:09 PM, said:

Wow, so cool!

Buyatari, how does one become informed when this sort of thing goes up for sale? And how/why are you in possession of so much of this artwork?


I'll start off by saying again that I was not the buyer or the seller. This particular piece was never mine.
The video game art that I do have comes from getting a head start on most other buyers.

As for how to keep an eye on the video game art marketplace, I would recommend this group on facebook.
Closed group so you have to be a member to see posts.

https://www.facebook...02536466816380/

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View PostOverlord, on 09 July 2018 - 12:54 PM, said:

View PostMcAleeCh, on 09 July 2018 - 11:24 AM, said:

Ooh, nice - thanks for sharing! Great to see an in-progress version of this iconic piece - one of my favourite pieces of western Sonic cover-art. Tails with skin-coloured fur is something I've not seen since those old... what were they, Burger King or McDonald's toys? Wonder if there's a connection, haha - can't remember which year those were produced.

Not the Sonic christmas crackers figurines? Tails had flesh-coloured fur in the prototype shot of those.


Not just the prototypes, the final figures had that colouring too.

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I've often thought that the skin colored Tails pictures were influenced by the Sonic 2 manga...

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View PostOverlord, on 09 July 2018 - 12:54 PM, said:

View PostMcAleeCh, on 09 July 2018 - 11:24 AM, said:

Ooh, nice - thanks for sharing! Great to see an in-progress version of this iconic piece - one of my favourite pieces of western Sonic cover-art. Tails with skin-coloured fur is something I've not seen since those old... what were they, Burger King or McDonald's toys? Wonder if there's a connection, haha - can't remember which year those were produced.

Not the Sonic christmas crackers figurines? Tails had flesh-coloured fur in the prototype shot of those.

Nah, after a bit of Googling I found the one I was thinking of - it's the one seen in this picture:

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Apparently a 1993 Burger King kids' meal toy, so I guess my memory was better than I thought! Even at the young age I was back then, it still bothered me his fur colour was wrong, haha. XD
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Christmas Cracker toys, photos from Sega Memories: http://sega-memories...acker-toys.html

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As with Greg Martin's image, tan coloured tummy/muzzle/ears, but white tail tips.

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Oh, right. They were more extreme in the protos, though.

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View PostAdamis, on 09 July 2018 - 01:39 PM, said:

I've often thought that the skin colored Tails pictures were influenced by the Sonic 2 manga...

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It's unlikely this particular manga did much influencing - you'd expect Sega of America to be leading the way for Sonic 2 and 3. In fact, Tails looks as if he's been nabbed from some Warner Bros. cartoon (the cheapo ones from the 1960s) - like they only had a vague description of the character to work with.


This Greg Martin painting is probably the first to use the wrong colours, and I would imagine licensors copied it from there.

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It would still be a strange coïncidence that this manga has a Tails with a color scheme that was used later by the US merchandising... and let's not forget the brown Tails from the nineties cartoons.

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Can't be just a coincidence... It's very likely that Tails' prototype design did have that color scheme and then that merchandise and artwork was made from SEGA's rushed orders.

Thanks for sharing it, Buyatari!
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View PostPengi, on 09 July 2018 - 04:39 PM, said:

Christmas Cracker toys, photos from Sega Memories: http://sega-memories...acker-toys.html

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As with Greg Martin's image, tan coloured tummy/muzzle/ears, but white tail tips.

That's a bit odd, the picture I had of them of Tails definitely had a very brown colour for his fur:
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Yeah, it's not unusual for promotional photos to have prototypes. The Sonic and Robotnik figures’ eyes are a bit off too.
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