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New Sonic 1 Alpha Screens Discovered

#301 User is online ICEknight 

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Preferably without any color/brightness correction? I think there's some detail being lost in the darkness there.

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Christ I wish Retro would talke this much of an interest in all the other things we need scanning.

1200dpi for a dodgy off-camera screenshot is crazy as it is - I don't think you're going to get any better than that. The colour has clearly been printed wrong - leave that scanner alone!

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...This is not just "for the wiki", this is of general interest.

Any early Sonic 1 prototypes deserve a "best possible scan" more than most of the stuff in the wiki.

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PNG - No Descreen: https://drive.google...iew?usp=sharing
PNG - Descreen: https://drive.google...iew?usp=sharing

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View PostICEknight, on 17 March 2018 - 11:52 AM, said:

...This is not just "for the wiki", this is of general interest.

And yet it comes from a magazine that we needs scans for anyway.

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View PostJaxTH, on 17 March 2018 - 07:03 PM, said:

View PostICEknight, on 17 March 2018 - 11:52 AM, said:

...This is not just "for the wiki", this is of general interest.

And yet it comes from a magazine that we needs scans for anyway.


I'm working on that. I'm usually busy at work with not much free time. It will take me a while but it will get done. There's around 200 pages.

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View Postcornholio857, on 17 March 2018 - 07:11 PM, said:

View PostJaxTH, on 17 March 2018 - 07:03 PM, said:

View PostICEknight, on 17 March 2018 - 11:52 AM, said:

...This is not just "for the wiki", this is of general interest.

And yet it comes from a magazine that we needs scans for anyway.


I'm working on that. I'm usually busy at work with not much free time. It will take me a while but it will get done. There's around 200 pages.

That's fine.

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You're a madman, cornholio857. Thank you for scanning the image so many times to meet our requests!

View PostBlack Squirrel, on 16 March 2018 - 11:47 AM, said:

Fun fact: We actually have this exact sort of redundancy on Sonic Retro right now:
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These cropped up magazine screenshots were uploaded to the internet in the early 2000s. But we have the Sonic 2 8-bit rolling demo ROM now, so we don't actually need these blurry things anymore. They'd have about the same amount of use to us whether they were PNG or JPEG - resolution matters more.


This is where I'd disagree; having the images that were printed in magazines - even if we have the ROM the images are of - still strikes me as being something worth archiving. Granted, I drifted away for awhile and haven't touched the wiki since I've drifted back so my word likely doesn't mean much on that front.

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View PostSoNick, on 18 March 2018 - 03:48 AM, said:

You're a madman, cornholio857. Thank you for scanning the image so many times to meet our requests!

View PostBlack Squirrel, on 16 March 2018 - 11:47 AM, said:

Fun fact: We actually have this exact sort of redundancy on Sonic Retro right now:
Posted Image Posted Image

These cropped up magazine screenshots were uploaded to the internet in the early 2000s. But we have the Sonic 2 8-bit rolling demo ROM now, so we don't actually need these blurry things anymore. They'd have about the same amount of use to us whether they were PNG or JPEG - resolution matters more.


This is where I'd disagree; having the images that were printed in magazines - even if we have the ROM the images are of - still strikes me as being something worth archiving. Granted, I drifted away for awhile and haven't touched the wiki since I've drifted back so my word likely doesn't mean much on that front.

We have the full magazine scans where those two shots came from - nothing is lost :)

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View PostSoNick, on 18 March 2018 - 03:48 AM, said:

This is where I'd disagree; having the images that were printed in magazines - even if we have the ROM the images are of - still strikes me as being something worth archiving. Granted, I drifted away for awhile and haven't touched the wiki since I've drifted back so my word likely doesn't mean much on that front.

Sure, but if we can get a screenshot of the actual game then that is better to use.

As for magazine scans, they already have their own place on the wiki, but we need new scans when needed anyway.
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View Postcornholio857, on 17 March 2018 - 06:07 PM, said:



Thanks for these :)/>

I'll post my results later today. I initially tried to remove the unneeded information on my first attempt, but I kind of forgot the scanlines were part of the image, so I removed them along with the moire lol.

EDIT:

Here a 600dpi crop, I'll post the full image later:

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Thanks for the rescans, cornholio857!

View PostMaster Emerald, on 18 March 2018 - 09:51 AM, said:

Here a 600dpi crop, I'll post the full image later:

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Wow, the scanlines are very noticeable indeed.

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Enjoy!

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Edit:

Can someone scan THIS at high DPI?

I may be able to recover some detail on the background :O

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Wow... Great work, to both of you. :O

EDIT: Hey, how about the other super-early demo screenshots with the non-robotic baddies? Can those be restored like this one?
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View PostMaster Emerald, on 20 March 2018 - 12:43 AM, said:

Can someone scan THIS at high DPI?

I may be able to recover some detail on the background :O

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I've been keeping an eye out for all of these mock-ups. The unfortunate thing is when they do show up, they're often quite small - that shot is genuinely the best one I've seen so far.

I have replaced some of the later mock-ups in recent months though. It's better than it was.

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