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#1 User is offline TheLazenby 

Posted 05 October 2006 - 12:36 AM

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I was wondering something about the Michael Jackson/Sonic 3 thing... is Launch Base Zone supposed to sound like any of his songs??

I read somewhere that someone thought parts resembled "Smooth Criminal", but I have no idea what the hell they're talking about... I can't hear a resemblance at all.

Anyone know?

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No. No songs seem to resemble Launch Base.

Ice Cap is the one that bears resemblance to Smooth Criminal. I originaly pointed it out.

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After hearing the comparisons between Stranger In Moscow and the ending credits, I have to wonder...

How did that slip by unnoticed for an entire decade?? They're almost the same song!

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I guess no one here ever listened to as much Michael Jackson as I did :P I was just listening to the song one night, doing my homework, and I sat bolt upright and said "Holy shit, this is the Sonic 3 Credits music!" and I posted about it, and everyone was like "zomg".

Very interesting stuff.

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So far it's...

Carnival Night Zone - Jam
Ice Cap Zone - Who Is It (Smooth Criminal)
Launch Base Zone - ???
Credits - Stranger in Moscow

I include LBZ because, like the other three the theme was completely removed from the PC version.

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View PostWiteoutKing, on Oct 5 2006, 07:16 AM, said:

So far it's...

Carnival Night Zone - Jam
Ice Cap Zone - Who Is It (Smooth Criminal)
Launch Base Zone - ???
Credits - Stranger in Moscow

I include LBZ because, like the other three the theme was completely removed from the PC version.

Don't forget knuckles' theme and the half-time boss in AIZ

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Yeah, I was GOING to list those, but I'm honestly not sure if they actually count, seeing as they aren't even in S&K iirc. lol read edit

EDIT:

I'm A FUCKING IDIOT AND I CAN'T BELIEVE I JUST NOTICED THIS NOW.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=4DBTXKKsNxM

Michael Jackson's "Blood on the Dance Floor".

Listen to the percussion and tell me that isn't almost exactly Knux's theme from S3.
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Wow....It really is close to the real thing.

To quote Shade:
"zOMG!" =P

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I'm sorry, but Sonic 3 tunes have only the vaguest of similarities (if any) to Michael Jackson songs. I think you people are hearing what you want, or expect, to hear. For example, "Blood on the Dancefloor" has a similar-sounding drum beat to the one in Knuckles' theme, but that's pretty much where the similarity ends.

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What? That doesn't sound "exactly like it" -- they aren't even remotely similar. The ONLY comparison you could draw between the two is the drum samples used, and even then, that's hardly worth noting.

Hell, even the backbeat isn't the same. None of it is.

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How do I failed hearing?

That's... not even close.

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View PostHivebrain, on Oct 5 2006, 03:50 PM, said:

I'm sorry, but Sonic 3 tunes have only the vaguest of similarities (if any) to Michael Jackson songs. I think you people are hearing what you want, or expect, to hear. For example, "Blood on the Dancefloor" has a similar-sounding drum beat to the one in Knuckles' theme, but that's pretty much where the similarity ends.

Regardless of wether or not some people make stretches in this oft-debated connection between MJ and Sonic 3, the undisputable fact is that people who have worked with Jackson on albums both pre and post Sonic 3, are credited in Sonic 3. It is not implausible that certain MJ songs could, and occasionaly do, bear resemblance to music in Sonic 3.

Plus, you'd be hard pressed to argue against the Stranger in Moscow thing. We've established this.

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The theory for Who Is It holds a ton of weight too, that speed up shows they're ridiculously close to being the same damn song.

EDIT: And for Blood on the Dance Floor, that drum bit was exactly what I was talking about.
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View PostWiteoutKing, on Oct 5 2006, 11:03 PM, said:

EDIT: And for Blood on the Dance Floor, that drum bit was exactly what I was talking about.

And that drum bit sounds nothing like the song, so I don't know what kind of shit you're on.

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I'd do this myself if I had the materials, but... does anyone have the ability to do an overlay? Basically starting with one, fading into just the other, then the two together? (Similar to how Ice Cap Zone and Who Is It were done in the Jimbo video)

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