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Discussion in 'Sonic 2 HD (Archive)' started by Vincent, Oct 2, 2008.

  1. RGX

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  3. Vaiz

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    About the chemical plant platform - the light specks in the original's blue portion come off as it being filled with liquid to me. I'd suggest maybe adding a few tiny bubbles in it to make it look like more than just a blue gem type thing?

    Then again, I could be TOTALLY wrong, so...

    Edit: Ooor maybe they're just sparkles from the lighting. Fuck.
     
  4. RGX

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    No, they're indeed bubbles, but Vincent told me to remove them because they will be doing a special effect with the bubbles.

    EDI:@ICE Knight- Seriously now, looks nothing like the original....

    1. I've been made it like the original, down to every last detail.
    2. Remastering wasn't enough so I had to remake a few parts and section ordered by Vincent and a few other members, as well as adding more shading then the original.
     
  5. Vincent

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    Looks good RGX, I wanted to suggest a couple things.

    For the blue 'liquid' contained underneath the platform, maybe you could try putting air bubbles in it as the original sprite seems to allude to a detail like that.

    The green tubes might look cool if you could somehow indicate a liquid flowing through them, like a green plasma substance. However, as they are now they look good enough - a detail like that would just be a little embellishment.

    Finally, have you tried just making the "tube" coming out of the top section into a dark hollowed out tube? Who says it has to actually show the rim of a tube popping out? This way it could stick closer to the original and look pretty cool, at least I think so. Here I'll post a quick example of what I mean..

    [​IMG]
     
  8. RGX

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    Here ya go Vincent, the Final version.....hopefully.

    [​IMG]

    @ICEknight- I thought you were referring the whole thing as to looking nothing like the original not just the gauge...(misunderstanding) but like I said, not my call to draw it how I want.

    @Siris: I was told to remove the bubbles because they will be doing a special effect with the them.
     
  9. Overlord

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    Change the gauge to be similar to Iceknight's suggestion.


    Other than that, it's perfect, imo. :words:
     
  10. Vincent

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    As for the small bubbles I specifically asked to do not put them due some FX will be placed into! :words:

    Because It has a lot of personality more than the original, while keeping intact the original shape of it.

    My Point: Is a new slightly different but new and refreshing detail a "mistake"?

    EDIT: Yes RGX, its almost perfect! :(
    I notice there is some strange unaligned pixel on the lower part of the gauges, it looks like some artifact the previous version didn't have!
     
  11. ICEknight

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    No way, it looks almost perfect. Except for the gauge... and Siris also made a good point.
     
  12. Siris

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    Alright yeah, I see that the bubbles weren't meant to be placed now.

    Vincents right RGX.. the lines on the gauges looked messed up, almost as if someone scribbled all over the bottom portion. After seeing people's suggestions for the gauges I wanted to ask something myself: Is there is a reason why the lines on the gauges are drawn all crooked and out of place? Its looks as if you did a quick edit of the gauges and never bothered to straighten the lines out and align them properly.
     
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    It's could be a common vector align problem!

    Flash simplifies the edges when rasterizing the file, while Illustrator or Photoshop does not.
    Which file format are you using now?

    Are you exporting it into pngs?
     
  15. ICEknight

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    It doesn't look better than the original design, in my oppinion... Nor it adds "personality", just makes it less familiar and more cramped.
     
  16. RGX

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    Lets just say I'm not using a very good method.... but I save the image as BMP in paint.
     
  17. Vincent

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    Ok, than we spotted the problem! :words:

    I too exported my frames from Illustrator's clipboard to Photoshop to resize it because I was drawing with 300% scale..
    Result was they were completely different each other and presented garbled or blurred edges.

    To fix this, resize to 100% your original art, and only export the frame from Flash, therefore avoiding clipboard pasting at ALL costs! :(
    Which Flash ver are you using? Can it export to transparent pngs?
     
  18. Siris

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    Ah ok, thanks for clearing up my question RGX. The zoomed-in version you showed looks really good!

    OK, one last thing I want to suggest, then I'll stop. The shadow you've applied under the arrow on the gauge, when zoomed out, doesn't look quite right. It looks like you used a radial gradient to shade that section. Have you tried inverting the radial gradient such that you get a rounded dark edge around the outside of the radial gradient and the white from within? You might want to try a technique like that and reduce the amount of shadow that is present over the gauge, so it doesn't blend in with the arrow so much as it does now.

    Here's a quick example, though I didn't use a gradient, I just painted the shadow in:

    [​IMG]
     
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    I actually agree with ICEknight. The gauge looks much better without those additional lines, imo.