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#6031 User is offline biggestsonicfan 

Posted 05 January 2019 - 10:41 PM

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View PostTurbohog, on 05 January 2019 - 10:27 PM, said:

Fang ever being planned to appear in Hereos with Bean and Bark seems especially farfetched.

I agree unless we can be proven wrong. Sonic Heroes was the first major 3D installment after SA2, and I was determined to watch every bit of information that flew across the internet like a hawk when I trawled Sonic CulT. I can't even recall a mention of this back in the day.

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Fang, Bean and Bark being planned for Heroes:
http://forums.sonicr...ndpost&p=926174


As for Chaos, his Sonic Channel profile labels him as "チャオ(突然変異体)":
http://sonic.sega.jp...cter/chaos.html

If copy-paste it to Google Translate, it gives you "Chao (mutant)".

Although, I suppose this doesn't necessarily mean that he's mutated Chao, as in a Chao that got mutated into Chaos. It could be that he was born like that due to a genetic mutation. But fans tend to interpret it as him being a normal Chao that got mutated by the Master Emerald. Not sure if there's any basis for that interpretation beyond that profile.
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View Postbiggestsonicfan, on 05 January 2019 - 10:41 PM, said:

I can't even recall a mention of this back in the day.

Yeah, I remember the murmurs of this back then as well.

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View PostBlue Spikeball, on 06 January 2019 - 01:13 AM, said:

Fang, Bean and Bark being planned for Heroes:
http://forums.sonicr...ndpost&p=926174

I eat my words then. Interesting.

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The fact they had to have a meeting on whether or not Shadow was dead continues to be hilarious to me.

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View PostJaxTH, on 06 January 2019 - 01:24 AM, said:

View Postbiggestsonicfan, on 05 January 2019 - 10:41 PM, said:

I can't even recall a mention of this back in the day.

Yeah, I remember the murmurs of this back then as well.

Come to think, I'm not 100% on this, but I seem to recall the original Archie Sonic Adventure tie in briefly calling him a mutated Chao via narration at some point. Archie may have based this on some background information they were given by Sega. Or it may be something that they made up and got accepted by the fandom as game-canon, to the point it made its way to the official Sonic Channel profile (I'm thinking a "Sonic likes chili dogs" situation here)
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Huh. Thanks for providing a source for the Sonic Heroes stuff. I'm glad Fang didn't end up in the game personally (along with a lot of the other characters they considered including).

But Chaos being a mutated Chao still seems weak. Who knows what the original intention was anymore?

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View PostBlue Spikeball, on 06 January 2019 - 01:36 AM, said:

Come to think, I'm not 100% on this, but I seem to recall the original Archie Sonic Adventure tie in briefly calling him as a mutated Chao via narration at some point. Archie may have based this on some background information they were given by Sega. Or it may be something that they made up and got accepted by the fandom as game-canon, to the point it made its way to the official Sonic Channel profile (I'm thinking a "Sonic likes chili dogs" situation here)


It was mentioned in several Japanese Sonic Adventure guide books, predating the Archie comics adaptation.

https://pastebin.com/Vu8yNjtz

水の精霊と呼ばれるものはチャオの 突然変異体(=カオス)である。
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Always on the look out for really early fan games... even though this doesn't technically qualify as a game.

10 points to whoever finds a copy.

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It's CES season, so here's a vague quote that could involve SegaSonic Bros.:

https://retrocdn.net..._03.pdf&page=15


"We will release three versions of new Sonic games this year!"

"What he's referring to is Sonic 2 on Mega Drive, Mega-CD and arcade coin-op"


This quote would be from January 1992-ish.

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About that Amiga Sonic demo:
There is a video on YouTube about it and it is listed on pouët.net.

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10 points to ValleyBell:

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http://janeway.exoti...se.php?id=19102

(DMS files work in WinUAE)


Fun fact - that title screen is actually based on the Toyko Toy Show 1990 one. So probably the earliest attempt at replicating something seen in a Sonic the Hedgehog prototype.

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Huh. Fascinating. Sonic must have appealed to people from the get-go to have all these reproductions before the game was even out.

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I could have swore this has had a wiki page for years now.

Must be confusing it for something else.

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View PostJaxTH, on 10 January 2019 - 08:13 PM, said:

I could have swore this has had a wiki page for years now.

Must be confusing it for something else.

There's a different demo, Sonic Attack that was rediscovered a few years ago.


The one I posted above is a 1992 demo so doesn't pre-date Sonic. However, "The Adventures of Quik & Silva" debuted on the Amiga in May 1991 and that has Sonic in it. It was fully possible to see Sonic in an Amiga game before you saw him in a Mega Drive one.

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