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Discussion in 'General Sonic Discussion' started by McGuirk, Jan 10, 2007.

  1. McAleeCh

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    Interestingly, they appear to have used a screenshot of the Sonic 1 rolling demo from the game's initial unveiling at Tokyo Toy Show 1990 to illustrate Sonic 1's title screen on that first page you've posted - the black background, smaller "SONIC" text, slightly taller yellow hoop and Sonic's eyes not quite pointing the right direction are all dead giveaways.

    Actually, it looks like one of the clearest images of that version of the title screen I've seen! The other existing ones I'm aware of are a clear-looking one of Sonic halfway through his introductory animation, and another that's grainier and features blurring betweeen two frames of the hand animation. Would you (or anyone else with this guide) able to do a high-res scan this page, by any chance? More prototype images are always good, even if they're similar to ones we already have. = )
     
  2. JaxTH

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    Jack shit.
  3. Josh

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    I have a video of me around Christmas 1994 telling my dad I'd unlocked Debug Mode, and that was seven months after I got a Genesis. It was also pre-internet for me, so I must've gotten it from strategy guides or cheat books.

    EDIT: And I don't know what kind of condition it's in, but I'm fairly sure I have pages of that book in the garage. I know for certain the cover's gone and some pages are torn, though. On another note, I wonder... is that the only official depiction of a distinct Sonic -1- logo?
     
  4. JaxTH

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    From what I can see, yes.
     
  5. Black Squirrel

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    I would imagine it was made specifically for that guide - the lettering wasn't carried through to other Sonic products:

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    Anyway debug mode name origins:

    http://info.sonicretro.org/index.php?title=File:GamePro_US_029.pdf&page=133

    GamePro #29, December 1991. So basically it took less than six months for the name to turn up.
     
  6. Rika Chou

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    IIRC debug mode was what they called it on the Sega tip hotline.
     
  7. Antheraea

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    The screencap of the level select in Sonic 1 in that scan is using the level order from REV01 onwards isn't it?
     
  8. Beltway

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    As of today, I finished adding the Nintendo eShop charts to the Retro wiki, with some updates added. I may eventually get to the VC chart releases of Triple Trouble and Sonic 1 GG, but not today.

    Instead, I've now turned to another digital store avenue to document Sonic releases--the PlayStation Store! While nowhere near as many Sonic games have been released for the Nintendo eShop, there have been a few Sonic games that have been able to work their way into the monthly charts the US and/or EU PlayStation Blogs release every month (including the Pulse video series). The download charts cover both Sonic 4 episodes, the re-releases of Sonic Adventure 1 and 2, Sonic CD, and Sonic Mania. I as of this writing have added them to the Wiki already, but I will make a post (or update this post) with the material in the future.
     
  9. Overlord

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    Doing honest grunt work. Cheers for your efforts!
     
  10. Black Squirrel

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    Curtosy of Akane:

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    https://retrocdn.net/index.php?title=File%3ABeepMD_JP_1992-07.pdf&page=137

    Given this is part of a Teradrive section, I would expect it to be nothing more than a little fan thing for DOS. However, July 1992 makes it one of the older fan things for DOS, and I like me some old fan things for DOS.
     
  11. Josh

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    I remember reading some kind of kids magazine in my elementary school library circa 1997. It was an issue from a year or two earlier where kids were offering their opinions of the Saturn and PlayStation.

    What stands out about this is that the article was written and the kids interviewed were speaking as if the Saturn had full backwards compatibility with the Genesis, 32X, and Sega CD.

    That cinched it, and on the promise of getting access to Chaotix and CD as well as Sonic R and Jam, I asked for a Saturn for Christmas 1997. Of course, it DIDN'T DO THAT.

    I've tried searching for this magazine before, but I've never found it again. It would've been some kind of US kids' magazine from 1995-1997, and may have also included the N64 (which makes the error even WORSE if Saturn had been out for over a year!)
     
  12. Jayextee

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    That's kinda funny, since I very clearly remember being the kid with the Saturn arguing with non-Saturn owning kids about the very same thing. They were adamant that's what the cartridge slot on the back was for. And yet, I fucking knew it wasn't; I had a backup cartridge for my saves, and could see with my eyes that the contacts were different, I wasn't even gonna try jamming in a Megadrive game or whatever to see what the results were.
     
  13. McAleeCh

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    No, the REV01 level select order matches the in-game order of the levels. The scan shows the REV00 level select, which uses an earlier order matching the internal level slot allocations.
     
  14. TheInvisibleSun

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    I tried quite earnestly thinking there would be some way it would/could fit (I was five/six at the time), until my brother noticed and understandably got really annoyed (it was his Saturn after all).
     
  15. Black Squirrel

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    Because nobody did this - can we remember where this image came from, so I can mirror the best possible version for the wiki?

    I know Naoto Ohshima was posting things on Twitter for a bit and I can't remember if this was one of them - did we round up the rest too?
     
  16. big smile

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    It's from the Sonic Art Book by Cook and Becker
    This one: https://www.candb.com/en/artwork/2076/sonic-the-hedgehog-25th-anniversary-art-book-collector-s-edition-sega.html
     
  17. Adamis

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    It's been known since the book was released. I even took pictures and posted them on the forum at that time. ;)
     
  18. Black Squirrel

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    Well, as I'm always keen to say, the wiki is a repository of common knowledge.

    If it's not on the wiki, it's not common knowledge! :eng101:
     
  19. cornholio857

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    Sure. I've been busy at work and have to dig out my scanner. When I scan it I will post it in the Sonic 1 Alpha thread from a while back that had the new images with the prototype Badnik.
     
  20. ICEknight

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    So this was said today:
    I hope that everything gets scanned and archived + - and then mysteriously leaked   ASAP.