[LordOfSquad]

Does anyone have a list of the beats per minute for all of the songs in Sonic 3K, or is there some program that can figure this out for me? Thanks.

[DigitalDuck]

Most audio DAWs offer support for finding the BPM of a song. I recommend Zulu DJ Software, as it's completely free. You can download all of the songs from Sonic 3K on the wiki.

EDIT: The auto-beatfinding seems to be iffy with Sonic tunes, but you can always tap the beat in too.

This post has been edited by DigitalDuck: 21 February 2010 - 10:24 PM

[LordOfSquad]

It works well enough for my purposes, thanks a bunch!

Lock if needed.

[nineko]

Lock if needed.

No, at this point you might as well post the results of your experiments here, in case someone else needs BPMs for those songs, or in case you get wrong results and someone wants to tell you that you're doing it wrong™

edit: sometimes I type like a noob.

This post has been edited by nineko: 21 February 2010 - 11:14 PM

[LordOfSquad]

Lock if needed.

No, at this point you might as well post the results of your experiments and post them here, in case someone else needs BPMs for those songs, or in case you get wrong results and someone wants to tell you that you're doing it wrong™

Here's what I got. The acronyms should be easy enough to figure out.

Title S3 - 114
Title SK - 107
Competition - 107
MH1 - 106
Azure Lake - 103
Knuckles - 106
Balloon Park - 193
Special Stage - 193
Chrome Gadget - 100
Chaos Emerald - 108
Desert Palace - 130
Continue - 171
Endless Mine - 133
SK Invincibility - 116
SK Midboss - 150
No Way - 105
Data Select - 112
Act Clear - 109
AIZ - 176
MH2 - 113
Antigrav - 120
Slots - 112
SK 1up - 106
Boss - 150
Game OVer - 112
S3 Invincibility - 124
S3 Midboss - 110
FB1 - 150
AI2 - 112
FB2 - 150
Gumball - 188
S1 - 140
S2 - 131
LR1 - 118
LR2 - 120
HC1 - 195
SS - 111
DE1 - 116
Out of Air - 113
DE2 - 150
HC2 - 103
Final Boss - 200
MG1 - 113
MG2 - 114
TD - 144
CN1 - 110
CN2 - 111
IC1 - 138
IC2 - 138
LB1 - 197
LB2 - 114
Ending - 101

Not all the tracks are here, just what I needed.

Also, since the thread is still open, does anyone have high quality versions of the voice samples? You know, the "Go" from Launch Base, the "C'mon" from the Midboss song. If no one has them, I was just gonna splice them out of some MJ songs.

[nineko]

Thanks for the list, hopefully it will be useful to someone else in the future

As for the samples, I'm sure somewhere on this forum there are the ones extracted directly from the ROM, but I'm not sure they're high quality enough for what you're doing...

[Andlabs]

These?

This post has been edited by Andlabs: 21 February 2010 - 11:24 PM

[LordOfSquad]

These?

Yeah, that's the stuff. Thanks.

I dunno how accurate the BPM list I posted is, by the way. I seem to recall reading somewhere in the Sonic 4 thread that Angel Island 1 was 133 BPM. =/

[nineko]

You know, I'm dumb. I just realised you can use the BPM from the midi files in the Sonic & Knuckles Collection <_<

I'll edit this post later with a list.

edit:

CODE

153
130
135
98
128
114
113
127
127
147
151
131
129
140
128
123
125
142
135
126
119
148
148
150
151
153
147
139
131
128
135
145
160
147
130
128
134
150
185
110
148
120
186
133
147
112
135, 200
160, 162, 165, 170, 177, 184, 190, 194, 200, 205, 215, 224, 235, 245, 255, 264, 273, 289, 293, 296, 298, 332
141
125
140
150, 146
128
170
144
143, 124, 125, 151, 142, 150, 148, 143

Keep in mind that there are also the replaced tracks in there (e.g. LBZ, ICZ, CNZ, the competition menu, and that unused song).

This post has been edited by nineko: 22 February 2010 - 10:23 AM

[LordOfSquad]

I have no idea what BPMs are for what track, and I don't have the MIDIs on me. Can you let me know, if it's not a problem? I appreciate the help. As far as I can tell, the BPMs I found are completely wrong.

[nineko]

CODE

Sonic 3 title screen    153
AIZ1    130
AIZ2    135
HCZ1    98
HCZ2    128
MGZ1    114
MGZ2    113
CNZ1    127
CNZ2    127
FBZ1    147
FBZ2    151
ICZ1    131
ICZ2    129
LBZ1    140
LBZ2    128
MHZ1    123
MHZ2    125
SPZ1    142
SPZ2    135
LRZ1    126
LRZ2    119
SSZ    148
DEZ1    148
DEZ2    150
Miniboss    151
Robotnik    153
DDZ    147
Glowing Sphere    139
Special Stage    131
Slot Machine    128
Gumball    135
Sonic 3 Knuckles    145
ALZ    160
BPZ    147
DPZ    130
CGZ    128
EMZ    134
Game Over    150
No way? No way! No way? No way!    185
Act complete    110
Sonic 3 1-up    148
Emerald Collected    120
Sonic 3 invincibility    186
Competition menu    133
Unused song    147
Data select    112
DEZ3 / Knuckles' SSZ    135, 200
Drowning    160, 162, 165, 170, 177, 184, 190, 194, 200, 205, 215, 224, 235, 245, 255, 264, 273, 289, 293, 296, 298, 332
Sonic 3 victory fanfare    141
Sonic 3 staff roll    125
Sonic & Knuckles Knuckles    140
Sonic & Knuckles title    150, 146
Sonic & Knuckles 1-up    128
Sonic & Knuckles invincibility    170
Sonic & Knuckles victory fanfare    144
Sonic & Knuckles staff roll    143, 124, 125, 151, 142, 150, 148, 143

[ddrmaxromance]

I dunno how accurate the BPM list I posted is, by the way. I seem to recall reading somewhere in the Sonic 4 thread that Angel Island 1 was 133 BPM. =/

That was me actually.

Also, about the music (BPM = beats per minute [est.]):
150 BPM - Sonic 1 GHZ (C Major with an emphasis on F)
138 BPM - Sonic 2 EHZ
133 BPM - Sonic 3 AIZ
117 BPM - Sonic&K MHZ
159 BPM - THIS SONG (F Major)

But they were only estimates: I was actually figuring out the numbers the old-fashioned way by using a real metronome that I have and found that 133 was very close to the song's tempo when I played the game itself. But I'm glad to know I was off by only 3 BPM!

This post has been edited by ddrmaxromance: 22 February 2010 - 04:14 PM

[nineko]

It is possible, and it is actually very likely, that the midi files in the S&K Collection have a slightly different speed than the original songs on the Genesis, so your 133 estimate might be correct as well.

[Azu]

Using OSU! I got 151 or so for the S3/SK Boss theme.

[LordOfSquad]

This is excellent, thanks! Hopefully I'll be able to share what I've been working on soon. =)