[ICEknight]

EDIT: Disregard, I thought the PS2 GIF was the wrong one.

This post has been edited by ICEknight: 27 December 2012 - 01:51 PM

[Master Emerald]

The PS2 in fact seems to run at 60i instead of 30p. Your emulator is de-interlacing the signal, as it shows on PCX2 "Interlaced (field)". Which means it actually is a 30 fps signal but only half of the frame shows each time so it creates some motion blur that suavizes the movement:

This post has been edited by Master Emerald: 27 December 2012 - 02:21 PM

[Elratauru]

Master Emerald, on 27 December 2012 - 01:58 PM, said:

The PS2 in fact seems to run at 60i instead of 30p. Your emulator is de-interlacing the signal, as it shows on PCX2 "Interlaced (field)". Which means it actually is a 30 fps signal but only half of the frame shows each time so it creates some motion blur that suavizes the movement

Interesting fact: pretty much every PS2 game runs on interlaced except for quite a few exceptions I could count with my hand. I hate how blurry it looks even when correctly de-interlaced because of that, and this is why I'll always prefer the GCN because it has progressive for pretty much all its games and looks way more sharp/crisp. Also, 640x480 instead of 512x384 that the Ps2 uses most of the time.

[Master Emerald]

It's possible to deinterlace a 60i signal so it looks as crisp as 30p as roxharis demonstrated on his gifs, though.

This post has been edited by Master Emerald: 28 December 2012 - 05:57 PM

[Elratauru]

Master Emerald, on 28 December 2012 - 05:56 PM, said:

It's possible to deinterlace a 60i signal so it looks as crisp as 30p as roxharis demonstrated on his gifs, though.

Of course you can do that, however it will never look as good as a progressive signal would look. Try it out for yourself, run a PS2 game that supports both modes, I'd like to recommend Melty Blod Actress Again for example as it's 2D and pure-sprite based.

To enable Progressive scan, you need to hold X and Triangle when the game starts, that way it runs at 640p, which looks sharp as any computer game on a normal PC monitor.

Now try an interlaced setting, with Blend-TFF mode for example, which blends both images so you cant notice the "scanline transition" and you'll see that it blurs the image and doesn't looks as crips as the 640p. You can always try it out using a real ps2 and a VGA monitor.

[Master Emerald]

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however it will never look as good as a progressive signal would look

Not true. It doesn't look as crisp because it doesnt seem to blend the half frames to make one, instead they just double the fields so the vertical resolution is actually the half it would be in a 30p signal.

Just set your emulator to 2x the native resolution.

This post has been edited by Master Emerald: 29 December 2012 - 02:58 PM

[dsrb]

Covarr, on 21 December 2012 - 05:05 PM, said:

-3D platforming in this game is seriously annoying.

Well, yeah, but that makes sense, because you're really not meant to be doing it. The only use at all that I can think of for playing as the kids is to visit your Nightopians (the A-Life, forerunners of Chao), hatch otherwise unreachable eggs, etc. Score-wise, it's suicide.

[Meat Miracle]

Are you guys seriously comparing how PS2 games look on an emulator that can upscale graphics to 4k UHD and has 3x2 different deinterlace modes coded in by the original author of media player classic?

Run the thing in full software mode, and compare *that* to the PC version.

[Master Emerald]

Was this game recently patched on Steam or something? I accessed the game and it started updating for me!



If yes, what changed?

This post has been edited by Master Emerald: 01 May 2013 - 05:49 PM