[Terrin]

[Durean]

Only other thing I could find in the 0909 proto is that Rewope/Automaton 2 isn't in the game yet - choosing it in level select just resets the game, and otherwise the game automatically skips it and goes to the boss.

[Waluigi Prower]

701:

When you put in the AGES password, it says Copyright 1995, but on the title screen it says 1994. Is that anything of importance?

EDIT: Also, if you go to the sound test and quickly alternate between "Lock-Up!!" and "Battle Entry Concentration", the little bird thing will keep moving past where it is normally.

This post has been edited by Waluigi Prower: 24 February 2008 - 08:10 PM

[Sanky]

Waluigi Prower, on Feb 25 2008, 01:28 AM, said:

When you put in the AGES password, it says Copyright 1995, but on the title screen it says 1994. Is that anything of importance?

I'm pretty sure they put the year it would be released into the password, and the year the build waas created in tittle screen.

Waluigi Prower, on Feb 25 2008, 01:28 AM, said:

EDIT: Also, if you go to the sound test and quickly alternate between "Lock-Up!!" and "Battle Entry Concentration", the little bird thing will keep moving past where it is normally.

I'm not sure, but I think I have done this in final, too.

This post has been edited by Sanky: 25 February 2008 - 06:30 AM

[Peter]

Here's the Ristar Cluster list of differences between the Japanese and US versions, from the internet archive:
web.archive.org/web/20041102150911/ristar.sonic-cult.org/jap-vs-usa.htm

[Djbrayster]

[Djbrayster]

This is more a bump than a double post.. I had lots of quotes so editing the old post would had been a bit longer.

b_boult, on Feb 23 2008, 09:56 PM, said:

Nabaztag, on Feb 24 2008, 04:57 PM, said:

Strangely 701's header is —VOLT-- THE VOLTAGE. No clue what that has to do with Ristar.

Judging by the rampant name-changing the Ristar team went though, we could assume that Volt was a name for Ristar at one point.

Here's a timeline:
Feel -> Volt -> Ristar -> Dexstar -> Ristar

I could see why they would call him "Volt" at one point, due to his color-scheme. However, the "RISTAR IS NOT VOLT" text is very odd, and may just be a programmer joke.

Although the possibility of Volt being a codename isn't too out of the question. :P

And also, about "Dexstar," I spoke with djbrayster on the subject and he brought up the possibility of it being a US localization name at one point.

I will actually go with Drx's comment on Ristar's shoes.. remember the FEEL proto pics?
Feel was much more rounded and more like a fat freaky rabbit with red and white sonic shoes.
The ristar final design is much more "sparky" and has the bolts on his shoes.
It appears it did go Feel then was redesigned and turned to Volt and then became Ristar/Dexstar.
It is possible the Volt origins is why Dexstar has the energized comment on the intro. to keep with the more sparky appearance of Ristar, while acknowledging he also looks and acts like a ambiDEXtrous STAR.

Rafalapso, on Feb 24 2008, 06:21 PM, said:

Valid passwords for 0701:
NOTONE - Onchi System Set Up! (Enables Onchi, an option in the Sound Test that distorts the music being played)
NOTEKI - Ristar Was Invincible! (Ristar will pass through enemies)
ILOVEU - RD.Select Active (Stage Select)
MIEMIE - True Sight (Shows hidden items)
FEEL - Hyper Mode ON (Gives the effects of NOTEKI, MIEMIE and ILOVEU)
AAAAAA - Free Continue O.K.!! (Infinite Continues?)
STAR - Star Star Mode (?)
BSDEMO - Boss Battle Demonstration (?)
AKUUYS - Real Staff (?)
AGES - Copyright S E G A 1995

0718 has the same passwords as the final release, except for the MACCHA - The Miyake color!!! which was added at the 0812 proto but it appears that only got coded in the final release.

The MACCHA code only effects one level as far as I could tell in the final.. and this was the Greedy boss arena! went from a bronze/orange to a gold/yellow colour. Have you checked that stage?

[Rafalapso]

The maccha code is in the august protos but if you try to use the password, it will give a password error screen.
Here are the areas in the roms where the passwords are:


July, 01

July, 18

August, 12

August 16

Here also are the areas in the final roms:

(UE)

(J)

In the japanese final, the MACCHA code works, but in the american/european the code doesn't work.

[Djbrayster]

Wow that's really interesting... so they implemented the maccha code for only the jp final? wonder if this means that at one point the work on localisation was done alongside the final work on the jp version. This might explain why some codes are present in the text of the roms but not active.

[ICEknight]

Djbrayster, on Feb 27 2008, 10:29 AM, said:

I will actually go with Drx's comment on Ristar's shoes.. remember the FEEL proto pics?
Feel was much more rounded and more like a fat freaky rabbit with red and white sonic shoes.
The ristar final design is much more "sparky" and has the bolts on his shoes.
It appears it did go Feel then was redesigned and turned to Volt and then became Ristar/Dexstar.
It is possible the Volt origins is why Dexstar has the energized comment on the intro. to keep with the more sparky appearance of Ristar, while acknowledging he also looks and acts like a ambiDEXtrous STAR.

I guess the whole concept was way too similar to PulseMan, including the uncontrollable route they follow when they're flying (they only let Ristar control his flight after a certain proto).

For the record, one of the Spanish magazines where I scanned the Feel pics you all know, said Feel was a flame. I can only think the final "swinging poles" were something completely different back then.

[Djbrayster]

ICEknight, on Feb 27 2008, 01:36 PM, said:

Djbrayster, on Feb 27 2008, 10:29 AM, said:

I will actually go with Drx's comment on Ristar's shoes.. remember the FEEL proto pics?
Feel was much more rounded and more like a fat freaky rabbit with red and white sonic shoes.
The ristar final design is much more "sparky" and has the bolts on his shoes.
It appears it did go Feel then was redesigned and turned to Volt and then became Ristar/Dexstar.
It is possible the Volt origins is why Dexstar has the energized comment on the intro. to keep with the more sparky appearance of Ristar, while acknowledging he also looks and acts like a ambiDEXtrous STAR.

I guess the whole concept was way too similar to PulseMan, including the uncontrollable route they follow when they're flying (they only let Ristar control his flight after a certain proto).

For the record, one of the Spanish magazines where I scanned the Feel pics you all know, said Feel was a flame. I can only think the final "swinging poles" were something completely different back then.

Did you ever release a translation of the article itself? as it would be interesting to know what they said about feel etc. I had never heard of the flame thing.

[Xkeeper]

ICEknight, on Feb 27 2008, 10:36 AM, said:

I guess the whole concept was way too similar to PulseMan, including the uncontrollable route they follow when they're flying (they only let Ristar control his flight after a certain proto).

Glad to see I wasn't the only one who thought it could've refrenced Pulseman.

It's the first thing that came to mind when I saw the header of that ROM.

[Durean]

I just remembered (and wish I had a picture to go with this) that in the US manual, to demonstrate the password screen "DEX" is the example in the screenshot. I always wondered why they used that.

[ICEknight]

Djbrayster, on Feb 27 2008, 02:24 PM, said:

ICEknight, on Feb 27 2008, 01:36 PM, said:

For the record, one of the Spanish magazines where I scanned the Feel pics you all know, said Feel was a flame. I can only think the final "swinging poles" were something completely different back then.

Did you ever release a translation of the article itself? as it would be interesting to know what they said about feel etc. I had never heard of the flame thing.

It wasn't an article, just some little blurbs in two or maybe three magazines, not stating much besides the title. =\

[Djbrayster]

ICEknight, on Feb 28 2008, 09:40 AM, said:

Djbrayster, on Feb 27 2008, 02:24 PM, said:

ICEknight, on Feb 27 2008, 01:36 PM, said:

For the record, one of the Spanish magazines where I scanned the Feel pics you all know, said Feel was a flame. I can only think the final "swinging poles" were something completely different back then.

Did you ever release a translation of the article itself? as it would be interesting to know what they said about feel etc. I had never heard of the flame thing.

It wasn't an article, just some little blurbs in two or maybe three magazines, not stating much besides the title. =\

hmm.. wonder how much truth is behind that comment then.. I remember a uk sega magazine going on about ristar being the "Masked Groper" and had hilarious captions on all the pictures but the article itself was more serious. Unfortunately I remember in one magazine it said "next month Feel preview" but the next month had nothing about it. and then ristar was announced and they commented on how they were going to be doing a feature but it never happened.

I wish they had done that article now. ;_;

Anyway I am going to do some heavy work this weekend on Ristar Cluster and these protos as I have a weekend free for once! first time in a very long time!