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#5926 User is online Casshern 

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I always thought it was something to show the relationship between the company and the product.

Kind of like "Walt Disney's Mickey Mouse" or "Disney: Beauty and the Beast" etc etc.

I talk to a lot of Sonic collectors from Japan and they all call him SegaSonic too which I think it's neat.

#5927 User is offline ICEknight 

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View PostGryson, on Yesterday, 10:09 AM, said:

3) Just about all Sonic toys and merchandise going back to 1991 use SegaSonic branding.

Maybe there was an issue with the trademark on merchandising that didn't affect the video games, and they simply changed the arcade game name to match the merchandising that was filling their arcades at the time? We'd need more info to determine that.


That was explained a few posts back and it makes a lot of sense:

View PostRoller, on Yesterday, 06:12 AM, said:

Trademark law works on categories. It's technically possible they'd have it in the fields of video games, comics, and television, but not in toys, and only in Japan. Entirely conjecture, but it logically follows that the arcade machine might have been rebranded to have synergy with the claw machines it'd likely share an arcade with...


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View PostICEknight, on Yesterday, 07:59 PM, said:

That was explained a few posts back and it makes a lot of sense:


It's certainly a possibility, but it doesn't explain that last pic I posted of the watch showing both logos. Here's another pic of the watch:

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So both SegaSonic and plain Sonic branding are on the same watch. That really doesn't make sense if there was a trademark dispute.

It's also a mystery what other product there might have been a dispute with.

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If the trademark dispute was about toys, everything still stands.

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My guess is that "Segasonic" is closer to "Supersonic", which is a word more likely to be used in Japanese day-to-day conversations?

#5931 User is offline Gryson 

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I think I've solved the mystery! It turned out to be quite interesting, so I'm going to do a write up on my site. Stay tuned... (and yes, it involved a trademark dispute).
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Don't think anyone's brought this up before, but the background in Metallic Madness zone Act 2 gets cut off slightly:Posted Image

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I'm just putting this here since it might help in something ... Segasonic trademark details...

Edit: Sonic The Hedgehog trademark details (abandonment 1993-07-13)
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#5934 User is offline Gryson 

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Here is the write up:

The Sega vs. Taito Trademark Dispute: Why Sonic was Rebranded as SegaSonic in Japanese Arcades

The dispute came about over Taito's 1990 arcade game Sonic Blast Man. It only involved arcade games/machines, not merchandising.

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View PostModern, on Today, 01:36 PM, said:

Don't think anyone's brought this up before, but the background in Metallic Madness zone Act 2 gets cut off slightly

Pssst, over here.
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#5936 User is offline Prototype 

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Fascinating writeup re: SegaSonic. Nice to have it put so concisely. First time I've ever really seen an in-depth discussion of it.

So, I know Mania got a good reception in the west, especially compared to Forces, but does anyone know (be it through sales figures or just anecdotal evidence) how the games performed individually in Japan? I've heard Sonic games aren't really a big seller in Japan, so it's interesting to me to see if there was any notable difference in reception over there. I know that Forces got a ridiculous Hooters promotion of all things, but was Mania marketed at all in Japan?
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View PostICEknight, on Today, 05:03 PM, said:

View PostModern, on Today, 01:36 PM, said:

Don't think anyone's brought this up before, but the background in Metallic Madness zone Act 2 gets cut off slightly

Pssst, over here.

muchos gracias

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