[ICEknight]

To me, it looks like they're moving in a similar manner to Star Light Zone's bomb enemies, albeit a bit faster.

[RGamer2009]

So this is the earliest we have seen of this game in action?!

Sweet! Guess they thought the Ball Hog fit GHZ better at the time.

I'm guessing they moved this enemy to the last zone because of how hard it is to dodge the bouncing balls, and people could have complained about its difficulty at that event, and it was forever moved to SBZ.

Of course it's all up in the air...

This post has been edited by RGamer2009: 13 September 2009 - 03:06 PM

[OKei]

Or perhaps those were just placeholders before they decided on the final monitor placement.

That's one interesting placeholder to me. I actually like the idea of a roulette monitor. Maybe in Sonic HD?

[MainMemory]

I call dibs on the roulette monitor.
Edit: I just remembered the '?' monitor, which would require less coding to use. So never mind.

This post has been edited by MainMemory: 13 September 2009 - 03:52 PM

[evilhamwizard]

The bandiks just move left to right like the crabmeat do, I'm not sure if they could do anything besides that. I'm pretty sure since they're up top and are looking towards the screen, they were meant to throw stuff down at Sonic rather than side to side.

Come to think of it, I wonder if crabmeat was even in at this point - or Sparkling Zone for that matter, since the zone is crawling with crabmeat bandiks even since the beginning.

[Tweaker]

Some more stuff, thanks to a slowed-down version of the videos that PACHUKA whipped up. New differences worth noting:

• The first ballhog inches slightly to the right in a backwards position; you can tell based on the amount of bush visible when Sonic first runs past the area and the amount visible just when it goes out of screen.
• The second ballhog appears to face the direction of the player, switching from looking left to looking right. Interestingly, the first one does not do this; perhaps there were several subtypes of the object that did different things? Or was this just a fluke?

I also think the second monitor visible in the first video might switch between different icons as well, but most of all I can see in the video is the static frame. The same applies to the monitor above the loop in the second video, though I'm significantly less sure about this.

[Spexfox]

I call dibs on the roulette monitor.
Edit: I just remembered the '?' monitor, which would require less coding to use. So never mind.

*ahem* >.> Already called on that years ago when I came up with Slotter Rabbit (which is actually a frog now). Not only was it a monitor roulette, it was put in an enemy too. Though I'm glad to see Sonic Team thought it could be an interesting idea to try.

And yes, great footage drx. I wonder if there are any other possible events which have video of early builds? And hey, people who managed those events may or may not still have carts. Who knows?

[Sparks]

Then again why ARE we calling dibs on this stuff? Not like we own it.

[Tongara]

Can we not argue about who owns something for a hack in a Sonic 1 proto topic please?

[Spexfox]

Can we not argue about who owns something for a hack in a Sonic 1 proto topic please?

Bah don't take me too seriously =P I don't care if someone makes it or not. Honestly it'd just be cool to see it implemented. Though if they actually did the whole idea with the enemy I'd want some credit for the idea. But we're just talking about roulette monitors.

[Sparks]

Can we not argue about who owns something for a hack in a Sonic 1 proto topic please?

Bah don't take me too seriously =P I don't care if someone makes it or not. Honestly it'd just be cool to see it implemented. Though if they actually did the whole idea with the enemy I'd want some credit for the idea. But we're just talking about roulette monitors.

What ever did happen to Badnik Contests?

(Sorry off subject still)

[Sik]

Then again why ARE we calling dibs on this stuff? Not like we own it.

Because we didn't see this stuff before at all?

[Quexinos]

Also the enemy *that's even in the fucking screen cap* Is not in that level at all. I'm pretty shocked no one mentioned that one.

err I said in the sixth post:

I can't tell but in the first one it looks like Sonic has no lives. The static on the monitor is kinda slow too. And of course the obvious, why is the Ball Hog in GHZ? (is that the right name?)

Also interesting that he watches you, this is really neat, I hope if we do land a prototype, it's this one.

This post has been edited by Quexinos: 13 September 2009 - 05:12 PM

[Xilla]

From 8-bit Sonic 2's Gimmick Mt Zone:



Hmmm!!

how about this?

That actually appears in a Green Hill-like level!

True dat! But IIRC the Gimmick Mt Zone Ballhog behaved just like the Scrap Brain version, only he was continually jumping.

[ICEknight]

...I don't think that ballhog can turn around, seeing how he seems to be symmetrical.

This version looks more similar to the illustration in the Japanese manual, both in shape and colors.

EDIT: Also, the images those monitors are slowly cycling are:

First monitor:
-Robotnik
-Sonic
-Ring.

Second monitor:
-Static frame.
-Another static frame.
-Robotnik.

So those objects are just cycling all the possible frames they had programmed in. I doubt they ever intended to animate those static frames like that, so I'd rule out the possibility of a "roulette monitor".


EDIT 2:
Since nobody seemed to notice, there's a Pink Newtron (chameleon) badnik that behaves like the final blue one (he appears, then drops).
In the final version, it was the ball-firing chameleon who used the second palette (then changed to green).

This post has been edited by ICEknight: 13 September 2009 - 06:41 PM