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Any interest in an E3 Build of Sonic Generations?

#16 User is offline N!NJA 

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Bumpy bump bump, ok so I haven't paid for this but I was sent the files seeing as the seller assumed it was just a renamed PARAM.SFO. I cannot disclose the files at this stage until it's paid for.

I have a cracked 20 day demo that is playable and I used the eboot from that with the E3 demo files, I did spot two changes but unsure if this is due to the cracked eboot or a change in the E3 CPK files.

Anyway, This stood out most.
https://cdn.discorda...62272/image.jpg

And for some reason Classic Sonic is replaced by Modern Sonic in Act1.

Is this worth investigating more/buying ?
EDIT: Files compared with retail PSN demo.
Posted Image

EDIT 2: The package was called UP0177-NPUB90567_00-SONICANNIVE3VER1.
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I would say no, since to me it looks like the same demo basically. We can't really tell more without having the cpks extracted. Plus seems to have the same ID as the old demo thats available. So I'm honestly not sure about it.
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View PostTwilightzoney, on 15 February 2018 - 06:45 PM, said:

I would say no, since to me it looks like the same demo basically. We can't really tell more without having the cpks extracted. Plus seems to have the same ID as the old demo thats available. So I'm honestly not sure about it.



I got home a little while ago and just extracted them here's the differences I spotted.

PSN 20 Day demo has extra files not found in E3.

These below are missing from E3.

font.dds
font.bin
bgm_sys_result.csb
bgm_sys_result.cpk


Files in CPK's missing from E3,
SonicClassic.ar.00
SonicClassic.arl
SystemCommonCore.ar.00
SystemCommonCore.arl


PSN 20 day PKG name: EP0177-NPEB90337_00-SONICANNIVDEMO01
E3 PKG name: UP0177-NPUB90567_00-SONICANNIVE3VER1
(Found in EBOOT.)

File sizes are slightly different, The biggest change is the fact it has a select screen for ACT 1/2 which isn't in the 20 day demo. Weirdly both 20 day and E3 builds have the exact timelock.

I'll try and get a video sorted over the coming days.

EDIT Unpacked CPK files and sizes:
Retail filelist/sizes: https://pastebin.com/qC8pLNYu
E3 filelist/sizes: https://pastebin.com/UyGPg1ck
Many files are different sizes in this lot.
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Ahh well now I'm kinda interested into what might be different now. You could check the file date times on them with opening the cpk with the cri sdk CriPackedFileMaker.exe. to see when it was packed and compare them even further to see how old the two demos were I suppose.

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View PostTwilightzoney, on 16 February 2018 - 06:23 AM, said:

Ahh well now I'm kinda interested into what might be different now. You could check the file date times on them with opening the cpk with the cri sdk CriPackedFileMaker.exe. to see when it was packed and compare them even further to see how old the two demos were I suppose.



I'll have a try later on that. The PS3 files date was the same date as the 20 day demo. and it does have the same timelock. I only managed to play it with a cracked/edited eboot from the 20 day demo. but this eboot for E3 is slightly larger but it won't let me decrypt it.

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If it's different in anyway and we don't have it then we need it. It's the only way to weed out what we have and don't have.

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Bump?

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Finally got around to recording some footage for you all.


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This is a recording of the Sonic Generations E3 Demo. It was offered to Demon on ObscureGamers.com/N!NJA on SonicRetro.com to buy.

This is using patched files from the 20 day Demo to enable it to be played. Only the patched EBOOT from the 20 day Demo was used.

I suspect the reason Modern Sonic loads in Classic Sonic's stage is due to the patched EBOOT not being the original E3 one.

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Right on, man! I'm not at home right now so I can't check the video out but I'll definitely have a look later.

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Shoot I never got around to reply to this was extremely busy during the time with work. Yeah looking at the file sizes it might be actually worth looking into since some of those files are much bigger then final build. I stand corrected this does look neat. I'd be willing to send money to help get it. If you haven't already. Sorry for the months late reply.
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View PostTwilightzoney, on 03 October 2018 - 05:56 PM, said:

Shoot I never got around to reply to this was extremely busy during the time with work. Yeah looking at the file sizes it might be actually worth looking into since some of those files are much bigger then final build. I stand corrected this does look neat. I'd be willing to send money to help get it. If you haven't already. Sorry for the months late reply.



Unfortunately at this time I don't have this build, there was an issue with Take-Two being evil and raiding people in the UK/NL and they wanted me for some reason, even though I never touched their games. But after they raided a 14yo stealing EA developer kits I felt the risk was too high so sent everything into hiding. It's safe, and when things calm down I'll do my best to get everything back but for now I'm stuck.

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I thought you already released this somewhere else though.

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View PostJaxTH, on 12 October 2018 - 06:51 PM, said:

I thought you already released this somewhere else though.



I released the 360 Review build which was sadly final and news on the cancelled PSP prototype. that was damaged and data recovery wasn't possible. :( The E3 build I didn't release as the owner vanished and then this T2 rubbish happened. I kinda just stood back from preservation. It's safe though, and hopefully the owner of the kit pops up at some stage and allows me to release.

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Ah, so it's the PS3 version. I wonder if we'll ever be able to get our hands on a clean version of that Doomsday remix from the early e3 build of the handheld version sometime.

View PostN!NJA, on 12 October 2018 - 04:02 PM, said:

Unfortunately at this time I don't have this build, there was an issue with Take-Two being evil and raiding people in the UK/NL and they wanted me for some reason, even though I never touched their games. But after they raided a 14yo stealing EA developer kits I felt the risk was too high so sent everything into hiding. It's safe, and when things calm down I'll do my best to get everything back but for now I'm stuck.


Feels bad to hear that man, I hope things improve.
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Oh yikes dude. Hope things settle down then for you.

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