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Mega Drive, European Launch aka the internet lies

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Posted 05 August 2016 - 04:11 PM

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There's a shop on eBay selling those Mega Drives, complete with photos of labels (warning: some consoles comes from Thailand while the rest are from China, a.k.a. there may be factory-specific differences too)


Clones usually aim for the Japanese colour scheme (although there's a bunch of Genesis 3 clones if that counts) - I've only ever found one or two exceptions:

http://segaretro.org...uperAlphaII.jpg

The "Super Alpha II"... which looks like a contestant in Robot Wars, and a couple of Russian clones - the Mega Drive 4 which isn't too hard to track down, and the occasional flavour of Magistr Drive, though in this case I'm not entirely sure if the colour scheme was intentional. Magistr Drives are particularly unpleasant because there are tons and the colours (and sizes!) don't necessarily match with their boxes.


I would hazard a guess that the PAL Mega Drive II wasn't really something to aspire to in the early 90s - Japanese imports with region switches were what people wanted, and the "Genesis" branding in the US adds an extra layer of confusion.

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Posted 05 August 2016 - 05:33 PM

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Yes, my first thought is that it was a factory difference, that's the case with SMSII. Some PAL MD1s were also made in Malaysia (and I think a small number in Japan too).

I meant the clones that used actual (or at least copied) MD and MD2 case moulds, so that they're almost impossible to tell just by looking at pictures of the top of the console. Anyway, I guess that the hardware cloners who were mainly based in Taiwan only ever bothered to make moulds (or had access to the originals) for the local models. The model numbers on the clones that I've seen also tend to be of Asian models. Of course, a mould of a western console would have prevented it from being able to accept Japanese/Asian cartridges, so it would have been of limited use, especially as there wouldn't have been many opportunites to sell significant numbers of blatant clones with trademarks in western countries.

This makes things a lot simpler for documenting serial numbers, as it looks like I'll only have to worry about identifying clones of Asian (and possibly Japanese) consoles.

Every clone that I've seen so far lacks the gold metal screw hole on the bottom of both MD and MD2. MD2 clones also lack the rubber foot by the label. So, whilst they may have had perfect moulds for the shells, they didn't bother with any of the "furniture" attached to it on the original consoles.

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Posted 11 August 2016 - 06:39 PM

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So here's the confirmation of US Sega CD release;

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Sega CD hit store shelves the week of November 9th, 1992 - shipping directly into the individual retail stores (5,000 retail doors) (Way back when - Genesis launched in only 1,500 doors).


http://retrocdn.net/...3-05.pdf&page=6

November 9th, 1992 was a Monday, so the exact date would depend on the store, but some could have theoretically been selling them the same day if they were close to SoA's warehouse.
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Posted 12 August 2016 - 11:00 AM

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Minor hardware differences go go go
http://i.imgur.com/x2fH7v2.jpg

Thankfully there has been an attempt at documenting different models of Dreamcasts, and it appears that similar rules may apply to Saturns after a certain date:
http://users.skynet....n/dc/mylist.htm
I wouldn't place much of a bet on other Sega systems following these rules.

Sega Retro needs to absorb all of this of course. In the Dreamcast's case, it can also help determine which consoles have Mil-CD support.

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Posted 12 August 2016 - 03:39 PM

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Technically those "670-" numbers in the second link are the sticker part numbers rather than the console model number, although different models would have different stickers, so they're somewhat related. SMS through to Saturn is pretty uniform, but they changed stuff with Dreamcast, whilst Mark III and earlier is also different. I'm not too knowledgable on Dreamcast, and don't understand pre-SMS yet, but for SMS - Saturn we should at least start with documenting each model number (I have a pretty good list of these that I'll add to the wiki) with pictures of all sides (and ultimately internally too). There can still be differences between consoles with the same model number, so it could be expanded to differences by year and manufacturer (determined by the first three digits of the serial number). It's a pretty big project, although from MD2 onwards there are far fewer model numbers.

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