[Kail]

This thread alone has really sparked my interest in the Pico. I have a 7 month old son that loves watching me play video games and he absolutely adores story time, so I'm thinking about calling my mom later and asking her if we still have our old Pico (I was too old for it at the time but she bought it at a garage sale 10 years ago for me simply because it was SEGA). It'd be cool to hook it up for him when he's big enough to do shit on his own.

It might be worth it to expose him to some Japanese games, since if I recall from earlier in this thread someone mentioned that it's region free. Are the Japanese games too language heavy or do you think we could get away with it?

[Kiddo Cabbusses]

You may want to check the Pico games I recorded on Youtube for some reference points on that.

You'll have a few games with language barrier issues, a few games which should be easy to pick up in spite of being Japanese, and some that are practically in English anyway.

[Kail]

Checked out your vids, totally awesome, I didn't realize there were so many weird (and sometimes too-much-boobery-for-eC-rated) games in Japan.

As for my Pico, I had my mom pull it out of the closet and I went up to visit her today. We set it up, but it wouldn't turn on. Apparently finding a working Pico is pretty difficult, either because there's no demand for it or because its just a not easy to find system. I do have a good set of games, though, that I assume are in working order (the books are in prestine shape and the carts are really clean). We got Busy Town, Mickey Mouse Blast to the Past, 101 Dalmatians, Magic Crayons, The 3 Blind Mice, and the Magic Schoolbus. I think all the carts but one are purple, the other one is yellow. I'm bidding on a working Pico right now, I hope I win it, I'm really hoping to let my son play with it soon.

[Black Squirrel]

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http://segaretro.org/Talk:Touch_Pico

This is all the Touch Pico stuff I could find... but I can't read Japanese, so translations are needed. 10 "games" so far. There may be more.

[Kiddo Cabbusses]

apologies on being behind on these.

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new stuff arrived from japan....

Kikansha Thomas ni Notte (Japan):


Jidou Eiken Taiou Soft Moomin to Eigo Tanjoubi no Okurimono (Japan) (Rev 2):



Download:
http://www.sendspace.com/file/uzdnau

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and another two:

Licca-chan ni Naritai! (Japan):



Pooh-san no Ichi Nichi (Japan) (Rev 0):

yes, we already have REV 1 of this game...now I had luck and got the REV 0 version...


Download:
http://www.sendspace.com/file/j3h0h4

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Doraemon - Nobita to Maigo no Kyouryuu (Japan) (Rev 2):

yes, we already had this game dumped by cowering, but without scans. so here they are.


and here a new one

Hataraku Kuruma Diapet Daishuugou (Japan):




Download:
http://www.sendspace.com/file/m95dng

There's also been some discussion on the ROM dumps as of late on the no-intro forums which was sparked by the finding of the Revs.

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Jidou Eiken Taiou Soft Moomin to Eigo Tanjoubi no Okurimono (Japan) (Rev 2):

Sorry to bother but are you sure this is a Rev 2? did you get this info from the header?
because Sega has usually been maniacal in its ROM stampings and the chip has clearly stamped "MPR-18011" instead of "MPR-18011B" as I would expect from a Rev.2, suggesting that this might be the first revision produced on PCB... or am I missing something?

it should be REV 2 because the internal ID is "T-181010-02" and the "-02" stands normally as REV 2....


can be see too with "Pooh-san no Ichi Nichi (Japan) (Rev 0)" and "Pooh-san no Ichi Nichi (Japan) (Rev 1)" which also differ in the internal ID "-00" and "-01".....

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unfortunately, the internal header is not so trustable with Sega carts. it often just means that it was the 2nd revision of the source code to be built to binaries, but it might well be that no rev. 0 and no rev. 1 has ever been produced on real carts

a similar example is recent Super Daisenryaku dump by BigFred: http://forums.no-int...7&t=2385#p12665
the header ID gives you a -02, but it's a Rev. A and it is known that no intermediate version exists on carts (for the record, the Daisenryaku rom markings are MPR-12477 and MPR-12477A, respectively)
gigadeath also told me there were a few more examples of this, but I don't have more details

in conclusion, given the attention of Sega about unique chip markings both in arcade pcbs and home console carts, I'm lead to believe that if no A or B is appended to the ROM marking, then it is a Rev. 0 cart and that if earlier revisions of the code exist (-00 and -01) they can only be found as protos

my 2c

[Meat Miracle]

Sega never used numerical suffixes for alternate revisions of games as far as I know (I've only seen it for ASICs). They always mark them with alphabetical suffixes, eg. xPR-14088C, xPR-14088D, xPR-14088H, etc., not counting ROM headers.
A "B" or higher revision may exist even if there are intermediate skipped suffixes, there are some examples of this. Those revisions are either unreleased, or released on so small quantities that they were not found yet. I've found new revisions of some Saturn games last year even after a decade of cataloguing them.

Numeric suffixes for ROMs and prints (eg. 670-x, 671-x, 672-x) were used primarily for country codes, -03 is Australia, -05 is UK, -50 generic Europe, etc.. Again, not counting ROM headers.

Game headers using numeric suffixes for versions may be highly inaccurate, many times they were left untouched on later revisions, or included arbitrary versioning (jumped from v1.000 to v3.000 and so). Alphabetical suffixes on the ROM ID is much more accurate way of checking which revision a game is; which is one of the reasons I applaud that these Pico dumps come with PCB pictures. If the mask rom ID is, say, MPR-12477A, then that game is the first revision of MPR-12477.
I don't recall any games that got entire new ROM IDs after a minor revision: the ones that DO got new IDs were always actual new releases as far as I can tell (satakore and dorikore re-releases, Netlink editions, etc).

Speaking of which: does no-intro maintain a list with ROM IDs, or do they only catalogue stuff by the header info?

[Kiddo Cabbusses]

I know Team-Europe's kept track of the IDs but I don't know how that applies to No-Intro as a whole.

It'd certainly be complicated when dealing with stuff such as, say, Satellaview software, which wouldn't go by the normal rules here...

[Kiddo Cabbusses]

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5 new dumps....

Bishoujo Senshi Sailor Moon S (Japan):


Sanou Kaihatsu Series 1 Zukei Ninshiki (Japan):


Sanou Kaihatsu Series 4 - Suiri - Kousei (Japan):


Sanou Kaihatsu Series 6 - Ouyou Mondai (Japan):


Sylvanian Families Mori no Nakama to Tanoshii o-Tanjoubikai (Japan):



DOWNLOAD:
http://www.sendspace.com/file/sf46au

[Kiddo Cabbusses]

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and another two new dumps...

B-Fighter Kabuto (Japan):



Do Re Mi Fa Animals no Tanoshii Ensoukai (Japan):


Download:
http://www.sendspace.com/file/8fm2hi

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new stuff....


Doraemon - Youchien wa Tanoshii na (Japan):

we already had that one...but without booklet- & pcb-scans...

Drive Pico with Go Go! Car Navi Touring! (Japan):


Gakken Pico de Gakushuu 1-nensei (Japan):



Download:
http://www.sendspace.com/file/qjyj6u

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and another two:

Densha Daishuugou! (Japan):


Tanoshiku Asonde Nouryoku Up!! Tanoshii Youchien '95-nendoban (Japan):


Download:
http://www.sendspace.com/file/r678k9